UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[toffee balls]

Sorry to add a note of pessimism to go against the overwhelming tide of optimism here [and that optimism may well be correct] but the danger here isn't that something will creep out of the woodworm to throw our case into unseen turmoil. What is more likely to spoil the blue bandwagon is the time it is taking to get the case into the courts, the delays and inactivity being a possible source of festering leading to players getting itchy feet and the club then having to get involved in another lengthy and expensive period of rebuilding whilst other clubs amongst the top six [???] with near enough squads are able to have a straight run at available trophies. As I indicate, it might not come to that but players such as KDB and Raz are wanted by other powerful clubs and they aren't likely to want to hang around if UEFA or the EPL are doing their best to throw their spanners into our works instead of encouraging the kind of game that Pep has introduced in his managerial career.

Living up to your user name there.

 

[1978 & still here]

Remember Aguero `s goal for the best ever way to win a league? well it never would have happened, City went from a 10 point lead to 10 behind from the end of January to the end of March during this time the FA cheated City out of results and gave utd results, right up until 3 clubs owners spoke out about referee`s poor performances when playing utd, and within a week utd are back to playing rubbish, it was in the papers at the time but only a couple, the clubs were QPR , Fulham and strangely enough Aston Villa. All of which the FA relegated ASAP

So if any club crosses United or Liverpool they get relegated, so if that's true you would had thought qpr, Fulham & Aston villa would kick up a fuss and they must have some proof.

 

[KS55]

Remember Aguero `s goal for the best ever way to win a league? well it never would have happened, City went from a 10 point lead to 10 behind from the end of January to the end of March during this time the FA cheated City out of results and gave utd results, right up until 3 clubs owners spoke out about referee`s poor performances when playing utd, and within a week utd are back to playing rubbish, it was in the papers at the time but only a couple, the clubs were QPR , Fulham and strangely enough Aston Villa. All of which the FA relegated ASAP

IIRC, YAYA was away at African cup for January. Maybe something to do with it.

 

[asahartford1]

I have been re-reading Conn and his reporting on this. When he talks about the Premier league investigation, and points deduction.
I didn't think that the premier league could sanction individual clubs, I thought that their jurisdiction was marketing, league rules, and so forth.
All the other clubs would want a City point deduction for their own benefit if asked.

The more I learn of Conn, the more despicable he becomes. He could not have any reliable info when he wrote those articles, which were then reprinted by all the media unless leaked info from perhaps an americanised club.

 

[bluetonium]

As the summertime approaches and contracts start to expire and tick over, I hope the club is keeping track, and asking for documented responses, for any player who feels they can't come to city because of the uncertainty over the FFP case.

In that case if we don't get the players we want but are the successful in out appeal, we could argue in the future that UEFA cost us earnings and silverware, or at least reduced them.

Even David Silva, if he goes back home as is expected, if he put out a statement thanking the fans and saying that in his final career years he can't afford to not have CL football so went home, could set the ball rolling.

 

[King KdB of Belgium]

We should get our owners to buy up all the companies that sponsor any of the 2 European Competitions. Then that would be fun when they start looking to those companies to carry on sponsoring them further along the line. If our owners owned them they then could dictate the terms of further sponsorship of these competitions.

What do you guys think about it. Buy them out then sell them to Man City for a nominal fee.

 

[journolud]

We should get our owners to buy up all the companies that sponsor any of the 2 European Competitions. Then that would be fun when they start looking to those companies to carry on sponsoring them further along the line. If our owners owned them they then could dictate the terms of further sponsorship of these competitions.

What do you guys think about it. Buy them out then sell them to Man City for a nominal fee.

No offence but I think you think too much. That is never going to happen

 

[asahartford1]

No offence but I think you think too much. That is never going to happen

Start with BEIN then gasprom, now I wonder if it's possible)

 

[jonmcity]

Start with BEIN then gasprom, now I wonder if it's possible)

would cost a few quid

Gasprom with sales over USD$120 billion, it sits as the largest publicly-listed natural gas company in the world and the largest company in Russia by revenue. In the 2019 Forbes Global 2000, Gazprom was ranked as the 40th largest company in the world. Gazprom name is a portmanteau of the Russian words

 

[BobbyBoy]

would cost a few quid

Gasprom with sales over USD$120 billion, it sits as the largest publicly-listed natural gas company in the world and the largest company in Russia by revenue. In the 2019 Forbes Global 2000, Gazprom was ranked as the 40th largest company in the world. Gazprom name is a portmanteau of the Russian words

Still might be easier to buy them than BEIN sports.

 

[lonestay]

I thought I read somewhere that the sheikh owns a media company ?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I thought I read somewhere that the sheikh owns a media company ?

Sky News Arabia it was.

He owns Hakkassan leisure group.

 

[SWP's back]

No offence but I think you think too much. That is never going to happen

I don’t thinking that the accusation of thinking (either too much or at all) can be levelled at King KDB.

 

[King KdB of Belgium]

journolud I do know that that would not happen. Will you just think out of the box for this time. If they did this, it would be hard for UEFA to find that many sponsors all at once. They who run UEFA would be scratching their heads as to where to find that many sponsors all at once. It would be all the harder with this coronavirus running rampant through Europe. Those that might have though about do sponsorship would now be having second thoughts about doing any sponsorship at all due to the lack of money coming in and a lot of money going out.

 

[SWP's back]

Nurse he’s at the keyboard again.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

I do wonder how they're going to replace FFP, or re-engineer it.

I've been seeing a couple of reporters talking about how the leagues need to introduce a salary cap.

Considering that reporters nowadays are just mouthpieces of whichever organisation gives them favours..... This could be them setting the narrative for wage caps?

 

[TheThirdDeano]

I do wonder how they're going to replace FFP, or re-engineer it.

I've been seeing a couple of reporters talking about how the leagues need to introduce a salary cap.

Considering that reporters nowadays are just mouthpieces of whichever organisation gives them favours..... This could be them setting the narrative for wage caps?

But there was a wage cap, but they god rid of it before United renewed donut thief’s contract, they then bumped him Up to one of the top earners of the PL

 

[Norbiton]

Rui Pinto's lawyer is apparently confident his client will be freed soon following negotiations with the Portuguese authorities involving further revelations about the Luanda scandal and corruption in football... Hopefully the latter will worry others rather than City

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

But there was a wage cap, but they god rid of it before United renewed donut thief’s contract, they then bumped him Up to one of the top earners of the PL

Aren't most changes to the regulatory arrangements made in order to accommodate the excesses of the rags ?

Protectionism and corruption of the highest order .

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

A salary cap existed in English football between 1901 and 1961. The immediate cause of its abolition was the threat of a strike by the PFA, led by Jimmy Hill. There were, of course, other compelling reasons for its abolition. It had always been very difficult to enforce. Clubs such as Burnley and Wolves had always demanded its rigorous enforcement because it made it easier for them to compete for players with the much richer big city clubs, but clubs had always found ways of providing players with "ghost" jobs which paid a salary but required no work. Perhaps more important was competition from European leagues, notably Italy. John Charles had left Leeds for Juventus in 1957 for a British record fee, but his signing on fee was many hundreds of times greater than the £10 signing on fee allowed in English football and his weekly wage was similarly much greater. In 1961 a number of the finest players in England followed Charles to Italy, in the same summer that a number of English clubs announced their intention to pay key players far more than the maximum wage had allowed. Since 1961 football has never tried to reimpose wage control and in the UK attempts at wage control were so unsuccessful that they provoked social conflict on a massive scale and played a large part in toppling two governments. UEFA's attempts at controlling wages as part of FFP have been deferential, to say the least, to the needs of a cartel of clubs. There is no doubt that if they tried to introduce a Europe wide cap it would applied as selectively as the rest of FFP and really would end in disaster in the courts. If the PL tried it we'd see a mass exodus of players back to Europe, a catastrophic decline in TV revenues, probably a players' strike and trouble from the 'istree clubs (and others). At a time when FFP seems unlikely to survive...