1.618034 said:buzzer1 said:Was gonna say the same thing, the object does'nt lose size, how can this be when the objects being discharged are nearly as big as the for want of another word 'mothership', very odd indeed.
I would say that it is a fair way away from the Plane as well.
Well if you look at the other video, which is shot from almost the opposite direction as evidenced by the background clouds and illumination, then it must be relatively close. If it was far away they would both be looking in the same general direction. The 2nd vid also shows the object well in front of and below the heavy clouds, which on an overcast day are very low, especially in Mexico City which has an altitude of 2,240 metres (7,350 ft) (Wikipedia). The altitude and therefore thin atmosphere may also explain the wild movements of the, what I think are balloons too.
As for the movements in the vid (around the 5 min mark) I don't see anything that would be unusual for objects which are on a thread and in a thin but turbulent atmosphere. The movements at the end of short lengths of thread would be circular/elliptical but this would become a fairly straight sine wave when the thread got longer.
To me, this is one of the more obvious cases where the "UFO" tag has been applied to readily. The trouble with doing this is that it's like a God-botherer stating "it's God's work" or "a miracle" at which point they just stop thinking because to them their faith satisfies them of what is possible. It's the same with the "UFO movement" IMHO. They're far too quick to look for something which backs up their belief that "UFO's exist" and we are being "visited". Like religious thought it's lazy and dangerous, IMHO.
BulgarianPride said:buzzer1 said:At first mate i thought about your Spidres Web theory and thought yes, this is a good theory, it may work, but if this is correct then the Web must be moving alongside the bus, also the guy seems to be adamant that the bigger Disc was spewing out smaller discs.
Dammo may be correct with the Plane theory but again, the guy mentions no Aeroplane activity in the sky, one of the theories of course is, it just maybe a UFO(s).
At 1:45 the thing first appears into the distance behind the plane. It was in the planes path, so if this thing was on the window, or near the camera, we would of seen in front of the plane. Not to mention he is outside the bus later on, that shows it as well. As far i can tell, if this video is legit then this is a UFO.
Damo's theory does not stand. The guy can't be causing that movement of the spheres by just shacking the camera or any other non computer effects. Just look at it 5 mins in, by that time he is outside if he wasn't outside the whole time. I haven't seen anything move like that.
Which makes be believe this is either graphics generated or real UFO. I of course can be wrong, so if anyone sees something i don't , please point it out.
Damocles said:BulgarianPride said:At 1:45 the thing first appears into the distance behind the plane. It was in the planes path, so if this thing was on the window, or near the camera, we would of seen in front of the plane. Not to mention he is outside the bus later on, that shows it as well. As far i can tell, if this video is legit then this is a UFO.
Damo's theory does not stand. The guy can't be causing that movement of the spheres by just shacking the camera or any other non computer effects. Just look at it 5 mins in, by that time he is outside if he wasn't outside the whole time. I haven't seen anything move like that.
Which makes be believe this is either graphics generated or real UFO. I of course can be wrong, so if anyone sees something i don't , please point it out.
Madness. Have you ever zoomed in with a camera that each heartbeat of yours is causing the camera to shake? It's the same principle, the shake of the camera is causing the movement of the flares to look more erratic than they are.
I can't believe I'm having this debate. A plane quite clearly flies past, and a bunch of lights eminate on the same path from behind it.
What's the explanation? Flares? Of course not, intergalactic travelling spaceships with alien creatures wanting only to entertain using lights that happen to be the same colour as flares coming from the back of a plane is much more likely.
It's insane. This isn't free thinking, it's an abject lack of reasoning and critical thinking.
BulgarianPride said:Yeah my post is madness? Have you seen the video? It's definitely NOT flairs, balloons very likely. Aliens, not likely. Flairs, IMPOSSIBLE.here is why.
Two different angles, in one you see a commercial jet. Do they carry flairs?On the other, the jet is nowhere near the object in question. Are you saying the brighter object is the plane releasing the flairs? Or is the brighter object a huge flair who then releases more?
Sorry Damo, i am not trying to be offensive, but on this one i think you are wrong.
Damocles said:BulgarianPride said:Yeah my post is madness? Have you seen the video? It's definitely NOT flairs, balloons very likely. Aliens, not likely. Flairs, IMPOSSIBLE.here is why.
Two different angles, in one you see a commercial jet. Do they carry flairs?On the other, the jet is nowhere near the object in question. Are you saying the brighter object is the plane releasing the flairs? Or is the brighter object a huge flair who then releases more?
Sorry Damo, i am not trying to be offensive, but on this one i think you are wrong.
Please do not use that word if you don't have an appreciation for what it means in a scientific context.
Also, to answer your question, yes, some planes carry flares. Some even carry military flare systems such as this.
That's not the point either way. The first video was an obvious 'flare trail', the second part which you refer to as the brighter object releasing smaller objects is also a flare trail. The whole point of a flare is as a counter measure, cluster flares (which is what I believe this to be) have been available for years and years.
1.618034 said:Been looking at how you make these balloon strings/bunches and basically you get a long thread and slide the balloons on the wrap it up... What you see a s ejections I see a s the string being unravelled and the balloons sliding along it and pull the bunch apart. The sine wave would be a certain outcome if they are all tied to the same string but all having an equal weight.
More and more obvious the more I look at it mate...
That's my belief anyway.
;-)
buzzer1 said:1.618034 said:Been looking at how you make these balloon strings/bunches and basically you get a long thread and slide the balloons on the wrap it up... What you see a s ejections I see a s the string being unravelled and the balloons sliding along it and pull the bunch apart. The sine wave would be a certain outcome if they are all tied to the same string but all having an equal weight.
More and more obvious the more I look at it mate...
That's my belief anyway.
;-)
Try this one, it maybe linked to your line/string Theory, airforce pilots 'n' all.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdvBidbwnQ&feature=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdvBidb ... re=related</a>
BulgarianPride said:buzzer1 said:Try this one, it maybe linked to your line/string Theory, airforce pilots 'n' all.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdvBidbwnQ&feature=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdvBidb ... re=related</a>
That's interesting.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWWa7bnnKAQ&feature=related[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svaFjnkUZzQ&feature=related[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NLkURNhsqU&feature=related[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsgjwnuXh8U&feature=related[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs2oPstVSjc&feature=related[/youtube]
Take a look. Find anyone familiar?
The host of the show with those ball spheres. He's a seasoned UFO researcher/reporter.
buzzer1 said:Good''n's them mate, and it makes it better that it's coming from the Air Force and such.