Ufo's, for those that are INTERESTED.

[1.618034]

If it came from the plane maybe it was something that had been hit or ejected by it...? That would explain the spinning... Did someone press the flush button?

But the thing about these things is the question of how far away it was and therefore how big it is. Depth perception is notoriously difficult esp with a single lensed camera. If it was way beyond the plane, which was about 500m I'd say, then how far away? Therefore how big? If it was say another mile or so then that would mean it was probably about as big as the plane, if not bigger... So how come no one else saw it?

I still say something close up because of the way the camera is focussing and the fact that the object is never actually ever in focus even though the plane and clouds were.

As for the spider's web theory... It was moving along with the bus because it may have been attached to it. Spiders love vehicles... Full of dead flies. I've had one living in my door mirror for months!

For the record, I don't buy the flares theory. Just doesn't look like any of the ones I've see on Google, which all seem to come from military planes anyway, and the one in the vid was a commercial jet... Sorry Dam.

;-)

The thing did not come from the airplane. At least i don't think it did. Doesn't look like it to me. It wasn't falling or anything, a spy plane that detached from a commerciall plane?

Another angle by another person. The colours are different but the movement matches the movement in the first video.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fsp7P7SJGGY&feature=related[/youtube]

-- Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:17 pm --

Can I ask what you mean by a "real UFO"...?


Just watched it again... How about balloons that are all tied together...?

Something that is truly unexplained.

Fair enough...

But this is always going to be that because nobody can "prove" it either way... So once again it comes down to what you want to believe and that's where the science ends and beliefs start.<br /><br />-- Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:42 pm --<br /><br />Just seen the 2nd vid and now I'm convinced it's balloons which started in a bunch but were perhaps caught in the plane's jet wash which set them spinning and unravelling. The fact that we've now got a triangulation on them, from opposing viewpoints (you also see them illuminated in one shot and dark in the other), means we can have a good guess at their size..

They must be in front of/lower than the storm clouds that are behind them which means that they were probably quite close, probably about the same height/distance as the plane, so therefore quite small.

 

[BulgarianPride]

Fair enough...

But this is always going to be that because nobody can "prove" it either way... So once again it comes down to what you want to believe and that's where the science ends and beliefs start.

-- Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:42 pm --

Just seen the 2nd vid and now I'm convinced it's balloons which started in a bunch but were perhaps caught in the plane's jet wash which set them spinning and unravelling. The fact that we've now got a triangulation on them, from opposing viewpoints (you also see them illuminated in one shot and dark in the other), means we can have a good guess at their size..

They must be in front of/lower than the storm clouds that are behind them which means that they were probably quite close, probably about the same height/distance as the plane, so therefore quite small.

But in the first shot, the angle is small, so i assume they much much closer to the second guy than the first. Sadly the plane does not show up in the second video to really estimate the size of it.

As for balloons, i don't see it. They eject to the left and right and then begin to move at the same altitude for a few seconds, before their movement changes. On our left, they move down in a sine wave fashion. On the right they move at the same altitude as the original one, and then they start moving up at an angle towards the sky. I will take screen shots and post them up to see it better. Might take me some time i am not good with photo editing...

They are not that high up as you can see in the second video, the center sphere goes in to the clouds for a few seconds. So how high do you estimate those clouds to be?

 

[1.618034]

Been looking at how you make these balloon strings/bunches and basically you get a long thread and slide the balloons on the wrap it up... What you see a s ejections I see a s the string being unravelled and the balloons sliding along it and pull the bunch apart. The sine wave would be a certain outcome if they are all tied to the same string but all having an equal weight.

More and more obvious the more I look at it mate...

That's my belief anyway.

;-)

 

[BulgarianPride]

Been looking at how you make these balloon strings/bunches and basically you get a long thread and slide the balloons on the wrap it up... What you see a s ejections I see a s the string being unravelled and the balloons sliding along it and pull the bunch apart. The sine wave would be a certain outcome if they are all tied to the same string but all having an equal weight.

More and more obvious the more I look at it mate...

That's my belief anyway.

;-)

Might be too big for here:
Left Side: not equal distance anyways.
[bigimg]http://oi53.tinypic.com/n66i9x.jpg[/bigimg]

Right side ( they going up to the sky)
[bigimg]http://oi55.tinypic.com/xd168.jpg[/bigimg]

I just can't see balloons. Can you explain to me the movement that occurs at around the 5th min mark in the first video?

 

[1.618034]

Both those shots are from the same camera therefore the same side.. The original one's were illuminated and had bluish sky behind them.

The balloons don't need to be and won't be equally spaced. The usual technique for attaching balloons to strings, as I've discovered from Google, is to slide the balloons on to a thread as you're tying them off. They are therefore free to slide along the string and then exert their own influence on the flight of the bunch.. The bit i think you're talking about is when the ejections start. To me that the point where the knots become untangled.

To me...

 

[BulgarianPride]

Both those shots are from the same camera therefore the same side.. The original one's were illuminated and had bluish sky behind them.

The balloons don't need to be and won't be equally spaced. The usual technique for attaching balloons to strings, as I've discovered from Google, is to slide the balloons on to a thread as you're tying them off. They are therefore free to slide along the string and then exert their own influence on the flight of the bunch.. The bit i think you're talking about is when the ejections start. To me that the point where the knots become untangled.

To me...

Yeah the pictures are from the same video the second one. One is on the left side, the other on the right side of the center object. I am talking about 5mins in the first video. Start watching from about 5:00 mins (5:00 - 5:20)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1utu3ts0W8[/youtube]

 

[1.618034]

Both those shots are from the same camera therefore the same side.. The original one's were illuminated and had bluish sky behind them.

The balloons don't need to be and won't be equally spaced. The usual technique for attaching balloons to strings, as I've discovered from Google, is to slide the balloons on to a thread as you're tying them off. They are therefore free to slide along the string and then exert their own influence on the flight of the bunch.. The bit i think you're talking about is when the ejections start. To me that the point where the knots become untangled.

To me...

Yeah the pictures are from the same video the second one. One is on the left side, the other on the right side of the center object. I am talking about 5mins in the first video. Start watching from about 5:00 mins (5:00 - 5:20)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1utu3ts0W8[/youtube]

To me... As the first few balloons get loose they are pulling in different directions but as they unravel further then they stabilise and all pull in the same direction which accelerates the unravelling.

Seems obvious. To me.

To you...?

 

[BulgarianPride]

Yeah the pictures are from the same video the second one. One is on the left side, the other on the right side of the center object. I am talking about 5mins in the first video. Start watching from about 5:00 mins (5:00 - 5:20)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1utu3ts0W8[/youtube]

To me... As the first few balloons get loose they are pulling in different directions but as they unravel further then they stabilise and all pull in the same direction which accelerates the unravelling.

Seems obvious. To me.

To you...?

It's only 4, with each pair having a rotation about some point in between them. I don't see balloons. One of them even makes a half rotation around the big one. Maybe i am seeing something that is not there, but i can't see balloons moving like that. Once they pass the big one, they form a huddle, and they guy changes the view.

 

[johnny on the spot]

Looks like a kite string in a thermal, but I don't know.

 

[buzzer1]

To me... As the first few balloons get loose they are pulling in different directions but as they unravel further then they stabilise and all pull in the same direction which accelerates the unravelling.

Seems obvious. To me.

To you...?

It's only 4, with each pair having a rotation about some point in between them. I don't see balloons. One of them even makes a half rotation around the big one. Maybe i am seeing something that is not there, but i can't see balloons moving like that. Once they pass the big one, they form a huddle, and they guy changes the view.

Whilst understanding that balloons and the like can get caught in Thermals etc i honestly cannot see these objects as being such,the so-called balloons would move away from and not towards eachother in a sort of dancing movement, noway.I know what you are gonna say regs.. my brain WANTING to see what it wants, but i honestly think that if the vid is legit.., then imo it is a ufo.