UK far right trouble July/August 24

[bluethrunthru]

It wasn’t an Al Qaeda manual. It was a US government document about Al Qaeda.

the changes as to what this document was over just the last 3 pages of this thread is illustrative of how people interpret things and structure them to fit their own narrative and concepts - its pretty interesting for that reason alone

 

[bluethrunthru]

Sorry mate, you're not really making much sense and you can barely string a sentence together so I think you should be a bit more hesitant calling other people thick. Quite happy to debate with most people but not wasting my time with you.

Really not sure what you are struggling with in my post. Is English not your first language or do facts bamboozle you

 

[KDB Fan]

You’ve spent the last few pages making excuses for them. Not sure it’s that different to condoning them.

Where have I excused anyone burning down a mosque or church? Or are we just totally making things up now to get people locked up?

This might blow your mind but a lot of people who are most vocal about supporting the freedom of speech also support the freedom to practice your religion too.

 

[youngbob]

Whole case is very sad and desperate and brought up a lot of ugly things.

Like a lot of these cases really, if not all of them.

 

[M18CTID]

It wasn’t an Al Qaeda manual. It was a US government document about Al Qaeda.

Anything to add @hammocity?

 

[west didsblue]

Where have I excused anyone burning down a mosque or church? Or are we just totally making things up now to get people locked up?

This might blow your mind but a lot of people who are most vocal about supporting the freedom of speech also support the freedom to practice your religion too.

I wasn’t specific about who you’ve made excuses for, however there’s little doubt that you’re making excuses for people who have incited people to instigate violence and made out it’s only free speech.

No need to be so dramatic about trying to get people locked up.

 

[crazyadi]

It wasn’t an Al Qaeda manual. It was a US government document about Al Qaeda.

was it? how do you know?

 

[west didsblue]

was it? how do you know?

It’s been reported in several news outlets.

 

[KDB Fan]

I wasn’t specific about who you’ve made excuses for, however there’s little doubt that you’re making excuses for people who have incited people to instigate violence and made out it’s only free speech.

No need to be so dramatic about trying to get people locked up.

Little doubt I've made excuses for people who've incited violence? You've assumed that so I will tell you my position on it so there's no more crossed wires and you can read it in black and white. I don't support incitement to violence.

Speculating that a perpetrator is a Muslim or autistic or a paranoid schizophrenic isn't inciting violence and I will always defend a person's right to say that, even if I don't agree with them.

 

[KDB Fan]

It’s been reported in several news outlets.

The Al Qaeda manual has been reported in several other news outlets. Even the state media/BBC reported it. But I think the lesson from this is take everything the state media says with a massive dose of scepticism given the number of cover-ups and misinformation.