UKIP- it didnt take long did it

[ElanJo]

They're a strange and scary bunch the UKIP lot. It is agreed that they are all racist closet or just outright and proud of it. But they are the emperor's new clothes right and as the mask begins to slip the real UKIP is being revealed. It won't be long before Farage himself blows his own cover he's already started this when provoked in Edinburgh. My feelings is if a group of lets say for arguments sake muslims start pull the same stunt as the jocks did on him up North I can well see and outburst of racist remarks.

Agreed by who, you and Rascal?

 

[Bigga]

UKIP-I'm in.
I want the country back as when I was a kid.
(born '59)

When you were 'a kid'? You'd know nowt in '59. However, are you talking around '66, when there was a smattering of 'coloured' faces and a controllable ethnic minority?

Maybe you should consider going back further, to a time when the indigenous people didn't think they were too good for the menial jobs around and therefore there not being a need to open the borders for other nationalities to do these jobs for the country??

OR, even better still, check your own heritage, cos matey, the odds are very high that YOU are, indeed, an immigrant too, by default...

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

They're a strange and scary bunch the UKIP lot. It is agreed that they are all racist closet or just outright and proud of it. But they are the emperor's new clothes right and as the mask begins to slip the real UKIP is being revealed. It won't be long before Farage himself blows his own cover he's already started this when provoked in Edinburgh. My feelings is if a group of lets say for arguments sake muslims start pull the same stunt as the jocks did on him up North I can well see and outburst of racist remarks.

Agreed by who, you and Rascal?

^^THIS^^

 

[TGR]

UKIP-I'm in.
I want the country back as when I was a kid.
(born '59)

When you were 'a kid'? You'd know nowt in '59. However, are you talking around '66, when there was a smattering of 'coloured' faces and a controllable ethnic minority?

Maybe you should consider going back further, to a time when the indigenous people didn't think they were too good for the menial jobs around and therefore there not being a need to open the borders for other nationalities to do these jobs for the country??

OR, even better still, check your own heritage, cos matey, the odds are very high that YOU are, indeed, an immigrant too, by default...

I think you may have jumped the gun here a bit mate (as you soppy Lib Dem types have a habit of doing so) by mentioning 'coloured faces' etc.

What he probably means is back when he was a kid the country was a safer place to be. Not perfect but safer - by far. When there was discipline in schools. When there wasn't a cancer called 'benefits culture' dragging the country down. When Jeremy Kyle TV didn't exist. When the military and the soldiers who were in it were respected. When Internet porn didn't hit your kids from every angle. When the NHS was run properly and so on. guinnessdaze never mentioned race, immigration or anything like it. YOU did!
So take a look in the mirror, give your head a good wobble and stop jumping to huge conclusions. Think before you post.

 

[guinnessdaze]

UKIP-I'm in.
I want the country back as when I was a kid.
(born '59)

When you were 'a kid'? You'd know nowt in '59. However, are you talking around '66, when there was a smattering of 'coloured' faces and a controllable ethnic minority?

Maybe you should consider going back further, to a time when the indigenous people didn't think they were too good for the menial jobs around and therefore there not being a need to open the borders for other nationalities to do these jobs for the country??

OR, even better still, check your own heritage, cos matey, the odds are very high that YOU are, indeed, an immigrant too, by default...

I think you may have jumped the gun here a bit mate (as you soppy Lib Dem types have a habit of doing so) by mentioning 'coloured faces' etc.

What he probably means is back when he was a kid the country was a safer place to be. Not perfect but safer - by far. When there was discipline in schools. When there wasn't a cancer called 'benefits culture' dragging the country down. When Jeremy Kyle TV didn't exist. When the military and the soldiers who were in it were respected. When Internet porn didn't hit your kids from every angle. When the NHS was run properly and so on. guinnessdaze never mentioned race, immigration or anything like it. YOU did!
So take a look in the mirror, give your head a good wobble and stop jumping to huge conclusions. Think before you post.

TGR, couldn't have put it better mate, my exact sentiments.
Bigga, feel sorry for you pal, I'm no racist nor patriotic, I just want fairness in MY country.

 

[MCFC BOB]

UKIP-I'm in.
I want the country back as when I was a kid.
(born '59)

When you were 'a kid'? You'd know nowt in '59. However, are you talking around '66, when there was a smattering of 'coloured' faces and a controllable ethnic minority?

Maybe you should consider going back further, to a time when the indigenous people didn't think they were too good for the menial jobs around and therefore there not being a need to open the borders for other nationalities to do these jobs for the country??

OR, even better still, check your own heritage, cos matey, the odds are very high that YOU are, indeed, an immigrant too, by default...

I think you may have jumped the gun here a bit mate (as you soppy Lib Dem types have a habit of doing so) by mentioning 'coloured faces' etc.

What he probably means is back when he was a kid the country was a safer place to be. Not perfect but safer - by far. When there was discipline in schools. When there wasn't a cancer called 'benefits culture' dragging the country down. When Jeremy Kyle TV didn't exist. When the military and the soldiers who were in it were respected. When Internet porn didn't hit your kids from every angle. When the NHS was run properly and so on. guinnessdaze never mentioned race, immigration or anything like it. YOU did!
So take a look in the mirror, give your head a good wobble and stop jumping to huge conclusions. Think before you post.

Isn't the world statistically at its safest point ever?

 

[TGR]

When you were 'a kid'? You'd know nowt in '59. However, are you talking around '66, when there was a smattering of 'coloured' faces and a controllable ethnic minority?

Maybe you should consider going back further, to a time when the indigenous people didn't think they were too good for the menial jobs around and therefore there not being a need to open the borders for other nationalities to do these jobs for the country??

OR, even better still, check your own heritage, cos matey, the odds are very high that YOU are, indeed, an immigrant too, by default...

I think you may have jumped the gun here a bit mate (as you soppy Lib Dem types have a habit of doing so) by mentioning 'coloured faces' etc.

What he probably means is back when he was a kid the country was a safer place to be. Not perfect but safer - by far. When there was discipline in schools. When there wasn't a cancer called 'benefits culture' dragging the country down. When Jeremy Kyle TV didn't exist. When the military and the soldiers who were in it were respected. When Internet porn didn't hit your kids from every angle. When the NHS was run properly and so on. guinnessdaze never mentioned race, immigration or anything like it. YOU did!
So take a look in the mirror, give your head a good wobble and stop jumping to huge conclusions. Think before you post.

Isn't the world statistically at its safest point ever?

'Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamppost: for support, not illumination.'
Vin Scully

 

[Chris in London]

[What he probably means is back when he was a kid the country was a safer place to be. Not perfect but safer - by far.

Would that be in the 60s (when kids were cut to bits on Saddleworth moor) or the 70s (when pubs were blown up by Irish republicans)?

Was that when there was much less rape (becauise it was never reported)?

Was that when there was no domestic violence (because that was never reported either)?

Were our roads safer before drink driving was taken seriously or before seatbelts and crash helmets were mandatory?

I could go on. The reality is that our country has changed much in the last 50 years in some ways, but scarcely at all in others. Now, as then, the overwhelming majority of people are decent law abiding folk. We do however have an unfortunate number of people in our society who might conveniently be labelled 'scum'.

But we always did have. This country had scum back in the day. We always have had nutters, twats, swivel eyed loons and perverts.

There will always be scum no matter how much we control immigration, or cut benefits, or repackage the NHS. We always will have nutters, twats, swivel eyed loons and perverts in our society. Every other society in the western world has them, too, by the way.

There is little point hankering back for the golden age of our youth, because it never actually existed.

 

[The Flash]

We always will have nutters, twats, swivel eyed loons and perverts .

The first time someone has managed to describe The Cellar in a single sentence.

I'd like to think I can be classed in all of the above categories.

 

[Bigga]

When you were 'a kid'? You'd know nowt in '59. However, are you talking around '66, when there was a smattering of 'coloured' faces and a controllable ethnic minority?

Maybe you should consider going back further, to a time when the indigenous people didn't think they were too good for the menial jobs around and therefore there not being a need to open the borders for other nationalities to do these jobs for the country??

OR, even better still, check your own heritage, cos matey, the odds are very high that YOU are, indeed, an immigrant too, by default...

I think you may have jumped the gun here a bit mate (as you soppy Lib Dem types have a habit of doing so) by mentioning 'coloured faces' etc.

What he probably means is back when he was a kid the country was a safer place to be. Not perfect but safer - by far. When there was discipline in schools. When there wasn't a cancer called 'benefits culture' dragging the country down. When Jeremy Kyle TV didn't exist. When the military and the soldiers who were in it were respected. When Internet porn didn't hit your kids from every angle. When the NHS was run properly and so on. guinnessdaze never mentioned race, immigration or anything like it. YOU did!
So take a look in the mirror, give your head a good wobble and stop jumping to huge conclusions. Think before you post.

TGR, couldn't have put it better mate, my exact sentiments.
Bigga, feel sorry for you pal, I'm no racist nor patriotic, I just want fairness in MY country.

Oh dear. We all want idealism, but you know what? Time doesn't stand still. We are in '59 no more. You have get on with it. So if 'guinnessdaze' isn't harping on about a time when immigration was low compared to now, why is his post in this thread and he's not created a nostalgia thread to suit his needs??

You cannot have it both ways. Did I jump the gun? I don't think so. You have idealist comments that have no place in this thread:

...when he was a kid the country was a safer place to be. Not perfect but safer - by far.

Violence, robbery, rapes and murders happened all the time. Just not as widely reported as it now. Just look at the Savile cases, if you don't believe that!!

When there was discipline in schools

Interesting to think that discipline and respect is a schooling matter...

When there wasn't a cancer called 'benefits culture' dragging the country down

You have governments to blame for a system that has been going since 1919. You can mainly blame Thatcher for gutting the apprenticeship scheme for young people.

When the military and the soldiers who were in it were respected.

Who doesn't respect the soldiers? The odd few extremists whose land the soldiers fight in? The only other disrespect shown is to the government by the people who disagree with the reason to occupy a foreign land with our children.

When Internet porn didn't hit your kids from every angle

Well, there was no internet then, so I dunno what you're talking about, but PORN has been existence since ability to put pictures on a page. If you hide it from your kids, like then, there shouldn't be a problem. After all, if you go looking, you find. As in, back in the day, in your father's shoe box, under the mattress, on the top shelf of a cupboard OR even when your mates, at school bring the pages found in a skip!
Let's not even mention behind the bike shed where all sorts went on!

Stop idealising a false memory. The only difference between now and then is the speed of knowledge and information. Stop trying to tack anything else to it.

*Big respect to Chris in London, who beat me to the punch!!

*doffs cap*