ULEZ Letter

bluethrunthru said:
another one failing to realise that this is a Tory Tax insisted upon by a Tory Transport Minister....... he could of course sell and buy a compliant car.

I think Tory Central Office was busy doing the rounds this morning pretending to be other people - or this is genuine and he thinks £4k is more than the health of his Mrs, two kids, other family and friends - how selfish can a man be

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Who’s buying all these cars? If youve got anything about you, you wouldnt touch them with a barge pole, especially if these schemes are been expanded.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Brexit is painful, and so are the Tories. This, not so much.

Love the tag-teaming. Always stray onto the Politics forum in teams, you can hound the others just like you’ve been hounded yourself ;-)
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Brexit?

Don’t we have a thread for that as well as one for the Conservatives?

Any chance of you and your fellow tag team mates sticking to ULEZ in here?
 
Vic said:
It's the Tory way. Tell a Labour council to do something, then get the local Tories to kick up a stink about it.

Transport, housing, it's what they do.
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Actually, in Manchester the government had to curb Labours enthusiasm for their particular cash generating scheme, telling the to reduce it by 90% at least.
 
MouldensChippy said:
Actually, in Manchester the government had to curb Labours enthusiasm for their particular cash generating scheme, telling the to reduce it by 90% at least.
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There was also a big campaign by people and Burnham got a lot of shit, don’t know who to believe these days if I’m honest.
 
MouldensChippy said:
Actually, in Manchester the government had to curb Labours enthusiasm for their particular cash generating scheme, telling the to reduce it by 90% at least.
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For the scheme the government mandated to reduce pollution.

I'm beginning to think you're a Tory.
 
Blue Maverick said:
Who’s buying all these cars? If youve got anything about you, you wouldnt touch them with a barge pole, especially if these schemes are been expanded.
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advertise on a national forum like Auto Trader - dealers in places with no ULEZ will be looking for good stock. Can't see an ULEZ anytime soon in North Wales - here on the North York Moors or Cornwall for example.

A former work colleague of mine lives in Canterbury has just sold his Renault Espace to a local dealer. 57 plate I think he had it from new - 150k miles - cat N 3 times in recent years as its been rear ended - 2 new bumpers and one new tailgate. Sold it to a dealer from Deal because he was prepared to be realistic on value. Its not hard. Load of wet fannies who won't be affected or don't even live there going mental for no reason if they think it through and look at alternatives.
 
bluethrunthru said:
advertise on a national forum like Auto Trader - dealers in places with no ULEZ will be looking for good stock. Can't see an ULEZ anytime soon in North Wales - here on the North York Moors or Cornwall for example.

A former work colleague of mine lives in Canterbury has just sold his Renault Espace to a local dealer. 57 plate I think he had it from new - 150k miles - cat N 3 times in recent years as its been rear ended - 2 new bumpers and one new tailgate. Sold it to a dealer from Deal because he was prepared to be realistic on value. Its not hard. Load of wet fannies who won't be affected or don't even live there going mental for no reason if they think it through and look at alternatives.
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Probably been used for parts mate and those that do buy probably have no clue what’s ahead, as Someone said it only affects something like 2% so why not that just disappear naturally? The trouble is a perfectly good 2015 diesel would be deemed chargeable how much pollution has been produced to make a new car to replace that? I suppose the people in China aren’t our problem though.
 
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Vic said:
For the scheme the government mandated to reduce pollution.

I'm beginning to think you're a Tory.
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Think away, I've already been called a troll, by somone who seems to think that they know more about me than I know myself. I predicted that tory boy would be next, so well done because you obviously haven't read the thread.

You are part correct, the government did mandate a reduction in polution after losing a court case to Client Earth. They asked for models, including charging models of how it could be acheived. Burnham came up with his masterplan of 493 square miles, which he then tried to blame on the government. He then had to admit that it was his idea, and told to reduce it.

By then he'd spent millions on signage. cameras, infrastucture, and a big contract to run the system without it ever being signed off. The consultation on the process was miniscule, and as ridiculous as the recent rail consultation.
 
MouldensChippy said:
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Think away, I've already been called a troll, by somone who seems to think that they know more about me than I know myself. I predicted that tory boy would be next, so well done because you obviously haven't read the thread.

You are part correct, the government did mandate a reduction in polution after losing a court case to Client Earth. They asked for models, including charging models of how it could be acheived. Burnham came up with his masterplan of 493 square miles, which he then tried to blame on the government. He then had to admit that it was his idea, and told to reduce it.

By then he'd spent millions on signage. cameras, infrastucture, and a big contract to run the system without it ever being signed off. The consultation on the process was miniscule, and as ridiculous as the recent rail consultation.
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And didn’t his wife work for the camera company?
 
MouldensChippy said:
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Think away, I've already been called a troll, by somone who seems to think that they know more about me than I know myself. I predicted that tory boy would be next, so well done because you obviously haven't read the thread.

You are part correct, the government did mandate a reduction in polution after losing a court case to Client Earth. They asked for models, including charging models of how it could be acheived. Burnham came up with his masterplan of 493 square miles, which he then tried to blame on the government. He then had to admit that it was his idea, and told to reduce it.

By then he'd spent millions on signage. cameras, infrastucture, and a big contract to run the system without it ever being signed off. The consultation on the process was miniscule, and as ridiculous as the recent rail consultation.
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Erm he was calling me a troll, not you.
 
Blue Maverick said:
Probably been used for parts mate and those that do buy probably have no clue what’s ahead, as Someone said it only affects something like 2% so why not that just disappear naturally? The trouble is a perfectly good 2015 diesel would be deemed chargeable how much pollution has been produced to make a new car to replace that? I suppose the people in China aren’t our problem though.
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34% of them are buying EV's and probably laughing at us
 
blueinsa said:
Brexit?

Don’t we have a thread for that as well as one for the Conservatives?

Any chance of you and your fellow tag team mates sticking to ULEZ in here?
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I’m no tag-team, I just comment on what I think is interesting, and I found the new holding of hands fairly interesting. And, it wasn’t in any way derogatory, I just thought there will be more traffic and content as a birds of a feather …, as they say.

As for ULEZ, I’m lucky in that I don’t live in a zone and always use the train/flights for places like London, dependant on where I am. However, if I was near I’d refuse to go into any City with the charge and spend my money elsewhere. It’s not about clean air, it’s about raising revenue, forced on the whole of London by the government.
 
Blue Maverick said:
If your buying one get a second hand one there depreciation is big

Used electric cars look tempting after big depreciation hit | Auto Express

Faster depreciation means used EV deals may look tempting next to more expensive hybrid and petrol rivals
www.autoexpress.co.uk www.autoexpress.co.uk
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Or just buy a Dacia Spring next year and get a warranty on a new car

www.autocar.co.uk

Dacia Spring city EV finally confirmed for UK sales in 2024 | Autocar

Budget electric supermini to get more 'modern' look as it goes on sale in the UK
www.autocar.co.uk www.autocar.co.uk
 
MouldensChippy said:
There's probably some cheap ones coming in from the North Sea shortly !
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Ye saw that, to fight these car fires you have to submerge them for 24 hours, in Holland the fire service have bought skips to put the cars in and fill with water, we don’t have anything yet but I wouldn’t count on them doing anything until after the fact.
 
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