ULEZ Letter

Rascal said:
Rather than spend money on car users, money should be spent on public transport infrastructure. Make all public transport free for everyone and eradicate the need for cars. Encourage companies to help workers buy bikes, Kellogs do this already. Ban the sales of SUVs and cars with big engines.

I have a car, I rarely use it, i use public transport and I would fully support a pay by the mile for car usage scheme.
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To be fair when I was at RSA they were doing a money off voucher scheme to subsidise workers to buy cycles via Halfords over 10 years ago. Back then even around their Peterborough office take up was poor. I think mostly because offices are on out of town business parks so for some the ride there and back would be like a daily mini-stage on the Tour de France. And of course its fitting the time to cycle in with dropping off and picking up kids.

Not sure how you ban the sales of SUV's as some do need them for legitimate purposes. The company car scene isn't as was - most I think get some sort of allowance to lease a car so maybe some form of taxation on the user and the employer providing the lease money to move them more into EV's would help - wean people off the the car park prestige thing - but even so I'd guess then they would face backlash from businesses who employ high mileage business travellers that would expose to a wider audience our inadequate charge network.
 
Rascal said:
I have been hearing these schemes wallop the working class, so does health inequality. An excellent transport network free at the point of use would benefit the working class and put money in their pockets, it would mean many working class families would have no need at all for a car and they would save on tax, insurance, running costs etc.

I would introduce exemptions for worker usage such as yourself as long as you only use your van for work purposes.
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There has to be worker exemption other wise prices for services goes up … further punishing the populace

Also as an idea of the average working families schedule to getting kids to school, getting them to swimming lessons a 10 min drive away 20 mins after school finishes, football practice 3 times a week. Guides. Cubs.
Getting from poynton to fallowfield for 9am on a saturday morning for one kids football match and to be in hazel grove for 10.30 for the next kids game.

Im afraid not having a car in this day n age is something of an unrealistic dream. Cant happen. We dont live in eastenders where we work, go to school, socialise, have sports events etc within a 5 min walk
 
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Bluesince1979 said:
There has to be a balance
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If you have a vehicle that isn't classed as being of the accepted standard there isn't a balance to be maintained really, you can either use it without paying or you can't.

Personally I'm not a fan where possible of taxing people to change behaviour. I would have stopped people being able to buy certain vehicles.

You probably bought your vehicle in good faith as diesals were promoted over petrol until recently so you have my sympathy.
 
hilts said:
If you have a vehicle that isn't classed as being of the accepted standard there isn't a balance to be maintained really, you can either use it without paying or you can't.

Personally I'm not a fan where possible of taxing people to change behaviour. I would have stopped people being able to buy certain vehicles.

You probably bought your vehicle in good faith as diesals were promoted over petrol until recently so you have my sympathy.
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Sympathy doesnt pay the bills.


Naturally old vans get replaced by new vans in time, theres really no need to hammer us with a tax. Because thats what it is. A money grab

I guess as long as we are all happy paying extra for services then its all good, Because ill be putting 15% on every job when (not if) CAZ comes in
 
Bluesince1979 said:
And whilst we are hammering the working man in the UK to save the planet what are we doing about india , China and USA?
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Air pollution from vehicles is a pretty localised problem tbh. Your last couple of posts have just clarified your outlook nicely.

I did have sympathy buts it has lessened quite drastically.
 
I love the push for cycling like we live in flat Holland, the weather is sunny like Spain and we have cycle lanes of Amsterdam. Then there is you can only cycle so far can’t take it on the metro link so you can use it at the other end it’s all for show. In the fire service we had the cycle to work scheme, brilliant get money off a bike cycle to work, then we you get there they send you to the other side if greater Manchester for the day/night shift because that stations short, how the fuck you get there with all your kit then? Believe it or not people cycled home got the car, some got on a bus so to get from oldham to Wigan took about 3 hours! Meanwhile that appliance is off the run!
It’s just not that simple to give up a car these days.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
You arent in the real world
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No honestly, they actually have a way of checking the air pollution on certain roads and local areas. Now obviously climate change is affected by everyone globally including China etc....

But here in the real world ULEZ is as much about local pollution. Surprised you didn't know that tbh but I'm glad I could help.

Anyhow as your adding 15% to your jobs you needn't worry about any of this, so alls well that ends well.
 
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