ULEZ Letter

[Mr Kobayashi]

Do you own it by choice or is it a Company vehicle owned by someone else

Personal vehicle used for business purposes.
I use it go to burgling.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Personal vehicle used for business purposes.
I use it go to burgling.

Why is it not electric? Surely you are still polluting and they are readily available?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Why is it not electric? Surely you are still polluting and they are readily available?

More traceable, less range and a smaller pond to pick from when getting cloned plates.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Strange reply, mate. Who’s the ‘slapped arse’ as I see Valent as a none political party who specialise in getting the truth out there.

I've no idea about them really, but it just seems that any election result is blamed on some interference nowadays. I think the Uxbridge one was actually something of a coup for labour in a seat where you could more or less stick a blue rosette on a piece of fruit and it would win. Starmer himself said it was ulez that stopped them turning a narrow loss into a win and I think that is true. Not because of internet shenanigans, but because the locals are pretty fucked off with the way it's been brought in and what's seen as a 'fuck off' from the mayor to their concerns. I don't live there now, but in my unrepresentative sample of ex colleagues/ acquaintances that do, they nearly all think ulez is about cash, and khan is a bit of a twat. By no means a scientific survey, but I dont think this is because of internet interference in the election.

 

[bluesince76]

Yes, fair enough. I realise the road infra will still need paying for. What we actually spend on roads though is a fraction of the tax take from motorists. The ammount we pay at the fuel pumps alone is pretty much the same as what the public purse puts into (privatised) railways each year. Not sure how that works really.

Yes, not saying it's for roads, as they don't deal with tax like that, but if everyone went electric now, there would be a huge hole in tax receipts that would need to be filled somehow

 

[bluesince76]

but again the poorest will be hit, if you can afford a big fuck off land drover for dropping the kids off paying by the mile wont be an issue, I wonder how long it will take EVs to become the thing everyone hates, pollution from its tyres, the mining of of the compnenets damaging the environment in the sea etc. To me this is like the smoking issue, why not out right ban cigarettes, they are known to kill people, cause cancers etc, just ban the fuckers, but the tax they collect is huge, how anyone can afford to smoke is beyond me anyway.

It would be fairly easy to work out the cost per mile for a particular vehicle - you've got a petrol focus, it costs you 1p in fuel duty per mile therefore the cost for road user charging would be the same. Problem is, unless they have rates for lots of different vehicles, potentially based on list price as BIK is, a flat cost per mile therefore disproportionately hits those with cheaper and therefore usually smaller cars. Could work for new cars but not sure there would be much of a market for a used Mercedes EV.

 

[bluesince76]

Right, but in probably the worst cost of living crisis I can remember I suspect that dumping a car that doesn't comply for a brand new one wouldn't be top of most families' priorities.

When the GM CAZ was being brought in, it was pre-Covid. I'm not sure even Boris would blame Burnham for COVID, QE, Ukraine and Liz Truss.

And it doesn't need to be a new car, it needs to be a compliant one. The one in GM wouldn't have required any private car to be changed. Even in London, our 11 year old petrol would be exempt, so it won't affect most and for those it does, they can probably sell an old diesel outside London and buy a similarly priced petrol

 

[bluesince76]

It's there in black and white from one of his biggest fans. There is official documentation confirming all of it from beginning up to where we are now. The bloke is a charlatan. This is but one of his many cock ups that he accepts no responsibility for, and we're not talking just about his time as Metro Mayor, stretching back to him being a cabinet member and minister of state for health.

Blokes a wrong'n, and every bit as slippery as Boris used to be !

If I put you in a room with a pot of paint and a paintbrush and tell you to paint the room in an hour, I haven't told you to use the paintbrush. If you ask can you use a roller or a sponge and I say no, not what I want, I still haven't told you to use the paintbrush.

So is it your fault if you give up and use the paintbrush?

 

[MouldensChippy]

If I put you in a room with a pot of paint and a paintbrush and tell you to paint the room in an hour, I haven't told you to use the paintbrush. If you ask can you use a roller or a sponge and I say no, not what I want, I still haven't told you to use the paintbrush.

So is it your fault if you give up and use the paintbrush?

Obfuscation. Exactly as the faithful defended Boris.

It's there, he admitted as I stated, his fanzine wrote the report as sympathetically as it could. All of the official documentation proves it, but no, that can't be right coz he wears a red rosette.

You can lead a horse to water......

 

[bluesince76]

Obfuscation. Exactly as the faithful defended Boris.

It's there, he admitted as I stated, his fanzine wrote the report as sympathetically as it could. All of the official documentation proves it, but no, that can't be right coz he wears a red rosette.

You can lead a horse to water......

You are missing the point in blind hatred of Burnham. I think he's a shameless self-promoter, who spends too much time traveling the world rather than fixing things here that have been under his control all along, like the trams.

I was trying to describe it in another way. You are correct in that the government did not tell GM (it's not a Mayoral decision anyway, it's all the authorities) that we had to bring in a chargeable CAZ. They did tell us that we needed to improve air quality to a specific level by a fixed date and none of the modelling showed it could be achieved without effectively banning the most polluting vehicles.

And whilst the order came down from central government, it was actually due to a requirement on the government that they just pushed down to various local authorities, including GM.