United 2016/17

[Kinkladze>Juninho]

An ex-Blue deliberately threw a game at the swamp and admitted it.

Is he an ex rag too?

 

[goatersnipple]

That's better.

I'm sure stats can be pulled on most managers, regardless who they played for, who have piss poor records against the rags. It doesn't mean anything. You didn't answer my question though. What could they gain from it?

The blind hope that one day they will get the job at the dump.

 

[GSW Blue]

Is he an ex rag too?

Don't think so. Mick McCarthy.

 

[Kinkladze>Juninho]

The blind hope that one day they will get the job at the dump.

How does that work? If they are seen to continuously get best off united, how does that throw them in good steed for a shout at managing the club? Or have you got stats that they beat all of the other teams and only lose to the rags?

 

[Kinkladze>Juninho]

Don't think so. Mick McCarthy.

That's a bizarre thing to do. Did he say what for?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Sorry, I don't see it like that at all.

Bruce's record as a manager against United is utterly reprehensible to the point where it is statistically baffling, at best. Stockholm Syndrome at the very least imo.

 

[Kinkladze>Juninho]

Bruce's record as a manager against United is utterly reprehensible to the point where it is statistically baffling, at best. Stockholm Syndrome at the very least imo.

Again though what has he got to achieve? He's a toon fan for starters, so it's not like he's a fan. Also, wouldn't his players have to be in on it too?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Again though what has he got to achieve? He's a toon fan for starters, so it's not like he's a fan. Also, wouldn't his players have to be in on it too?

I suggest you do a little research on Stockholm Syndrome before posing a question about his motives.

 

[Kinkladze>Juninho]

I suggest you do a little research on Stockholm Syndrome before posing a question about his motives.

I know what Stockholm syndrome is, and to suggest that is what Bruce suffers from when facing the rags is far fetched to say the least because as I just said, amongst other things, wouldn't his players have to be on sod either with him to throw the game too? Do you really think al the players he's had at the numerous clubs he's been at the helm of, his staff and players have agreed to play shit so the rags win?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I know what Stockholm syndrome is, and to suggest that is what Bruce suffers from when facing the rags is far fetched to say the least because as I just said, amongst other things, wouldn't his players have to be on sod either with him to throw the game too? Do you really think al the players he's had at the numerous clubs he's been at the helm of, his staff and players have agreed to play shit so the rags win?

I think his Uncle Tom-style team talks will have contributed. Being a manager is a marginal art, but if a manager of a mid-table team doesn't properly motivate their players against a club like united, then the battle is lost before a shot has been fired.

What do you attribute his record against united to? Back luck?

 

[goatersnipple]

I know what Stockholm syndrome is, and to suggest that is what Bruce suffers from when facing the rags is far fetched to say the least because as I just said, amongst other things, wouldn't his players have to be on sod either with him to throw the game too? Do you really think al the players he's had at the numerous clubs he's been at the helm of, his staff and players have agreed to play shit so the rags win?

Do you have arguments in phone boxes.
There only appears to be you he thinks it's normal pan head never ever gIves the shit a hard game.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

I think his Uncle Tom-style team talks will have contributed. Being a manager is a marginal art, but if a manager of a mid-table club doesn't properly motivate their players against a club like united, then the battle is lost before a shot has been fired.

What do you attribute his record against united to? Back luck?

Not only his team talks but continually setting up his teams to try and get a point, never having a go at them to get more, thus playing into the rags hands.

 

[Kinkladze>Juninho]

Do you have arguments in phone boxes.
There only appears to be you he thinks it's normal pan head never ever gIves the shit a hard game.

I'm not arguing, im discussing. You brought stats into it and I asked if you have stats they say those same ex rags best all the other teams other than United, because only that would go some way to prove they Bend over for them. If you're arguing I'll leave it there.

 

[inchy14]

Again though what has he got to achieve? He's a toon fan for starters, so it's not like he's a fan. Also, wouldn't his players have to be in on it too?

How many ex rag players, who are now or have been managers, end up getting rag cast offs playing for them? How do the rags manage to shift utter dead wood to the like s of Sunderland, Hull etc.. over the years.
It's always been the same, they know if they roll over the rags will sort them out with a loan or 2 to help them. Janujaz was the last one if i remember correctly.

 

[Kinkladze>Juninho]

I think his Uncle Tom-style team talks will have contributed. Being a manager is a marginal art, but if a manager of a mid-table team doesn't properly motivate their players against a club like united, then the battle is lost before a shot has been fired.

What do you attribute his record against united to? Back luck?

I put it down to his teams being average, at best, and united being anything but average for the last 17/18 years since Bruce has been a manager. If Vincent goes on to manage club, or several clubs, will he bend over for us? They have nothing to gain in doing so, other than harm their reputation.

 

[Kinkladze>Juninho]

How many ex rag players, who are now or have been managers, end up getting rag cast offs playing for them? How do the rags manage to shift utter dead wood to the like s of Sunderland, Hull etc.. over the years.
It's always been the same, they know if they roll over the rags will sort them out with a loan or 2 to help them. Janujaz was the last one if i remember correctly.

Isn't that just contacts within the game? I'm sure Klipperty said the other week if Gerrard had taken the MK Dons job he would have looked to loan players to them.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Not only his team talks but continually setting up his teams to try and get a point, never having a go at them to get more, thus playing into the rags hands.

Which itself is a form of Uncle Tom-like behaviour. Thing is, I quite like Bruce, not least because he's never publicly disrespected City, but he's clearly got issues in relation to an unhealthy, obseqious relationship with his former club.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

I put it down to his teams being average, at best, and united being anything but average for the last 17/18 years since Bruce has been a manager. If Vincent goes on to manage club, or several clubs, will he bend over for us? They have nothing to gain in doing so, other than harm their reputation.

What does a hostage gain from continuing to cover for the captor, well after their captivity has ended?

If Bruce or whoever has bought into all the rag bollocks of them being the greatest team in the world with the best players having had it drummed into him time and time again over many years, he therefore could easily have the mentality of being beaten before he has even attempted to win a game against them, thus setting his team up to draw at the very best, which would start to explain his frankly lamentable record against his former team. Please put forward another explanation, unless you think he's just plain unlucky.

 

[goatersnipple]

I put it down to his teams being average, at best, and united being anything but average for the last 17/18 years since Bruce has been a manager. If Vincent goes on to manage club, or several clubs, will he bend over for us? They have nothing to gain in doing so, other than harm their reputation.

United been anything but bang average for 17 to 18 years.
Have you forgotten the last 3 years if that's not bang average I don't know what is

 

[Kinkladze>Juninho]

What does a hostage gain from continuing to cover for the captor, well after their captivity has ended?

If Bruce or whoever has bought into all the rag bollocks of them being the greatest team in the world with the best players having had it drummed into him time and time again over many years, he therefore could easily have the mentality of being beaten before he has even attempted to win a game against them, thus setting his team up to draw at the very best, which would start to explain his frankly lamentable record against his former team. Please put forward another explanation, unless you think he's just plain unlucky.

If you genuinely believe Stockholm Syndrome is what's going on here, I think maybe you're looking too much into it in all honesty. It's not that unbelievable that a really good team has the beating of a very average one again and again, regardless of who is manager.