United (a) post-match thread

[domalino]

If we get banned from next year's CL despite a pending or successful CAS appeal (and in the case of further legal action being pursued by us should CAS uphold UEFA's ruling) and the PL don't back us, then there's no point in football any more. No business should be able to be accused and punished until the full legal processes have been exhausted.

If you get convicted of a crime and launch an appeal, they dont let you stay out and about free as a bird until all your appeals are done. You're in prison.

UEFA wont do that because they'll be terrified of the financial punishment if they end up on the losing side, but that is where we are in this process, locked up hoping an appeal works.

 

[Craig]

We weren't blowing teams away in most games from February to May lasty year. Won on pens vs Chelsea in the league cup, just 1:0 on several occasions (Bournemouth, Burnley, Spurs, Brighton in the FA Cup), were a bit lucky to get past Swansea in the FA Cup, lost from Spurs in the CL.[/QUOTE]

Yeah that’s true. Towards the end of last season we stopped playing with as much attacking intent and were a bit more pragmatic. We largely had Sterling on the left and Bernardo on the right so you can see there the pace of our attacking play out wide was already starting to fade then. Obviously though unlike this season those 2 were in form. Main difference with that run was we could keep it tight as we largely had 2 fantastic centre halves during the run in. Now we don’t attack with pace, play quite conservatively with Gundo and Rodri strolling about but don’t have top class centre backs.Not signing a centre back was absolutely criminal.

 

[JRockBlues]

Despite how badly we were playing yesterday I never once saw a player having a go at another player. KDB is the only one of the current crop that will do that on a regular basis and he was rightly not risked in that match. We miss Vinnie so much in these situations. Too many players have dropped off a cliff form-wise since last season and I hope we can still keep pulling it out for the cup competitions we're still competing for. But the thing is, we've still won 1 trophy and even if that's the only one we win in what we're considering to be a poor season then things have changed indeed.

 

[warringtonblue]

Game tonight meant as much to us as Vienna did to Midge Ure in the 80's. All about lifting trophies this season...league was gone in December. 1 in the bag and 2 to go. 2-0 in their cup final, we won the important derby and have that trophy in the cabinet like we'll win the next important derby in the fa cup semi/final. 70% possession at the swamp and only 2 mistakes by us cost us the game....they're light years behind us.

Only 2 mistakes? Ederson made at least 3

 

[Whymewhynot]

didn’t Mahrez run from halfway line to set up Jesus, are we saying we were gifted that goal cos they gave the ball away in midfield ?

tough crowd

He has dug himself into a hole he refuses to get out of.

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

If you get convicted of a crime and launch an appeal, they dont let you stay out and about free as a bird until all your appeals are done. You're in prison.

UEFA wont do that because they'll be terrified of the financial punishment if they end up on the losing side, but that is where we are in this process, locked up hoping an appeal works.

I agree. This was my reasoning as to why yesterday's result is nothing for us unless UEFA enforce the ban letting the rags in by the side door. If this happens and the PL let one of their clubs be treated as such, then I really don't see the point of it any more, seriously. The whole thing becomes a total sham (if it isn't already on the way there). And I don't think they'll get 4th, they won yesterday because we were poor, but it was a dreadful game - very little quality on show by either team.

 

[blue oli]

Let’s not go over the top here, United were luckier, played better and deserved to win. We won’t win everything every year.

It’s a mirror image of 10-20 years ago where we would win the odd game against United then have to sit back and watch them win trophies.

Nothing to worry about and I suspect the team are more focused on the champions league than other games right now.

Move on and let that game disappear into history, I know which of the two team playing yesterday I would prefer to be a supporter of full stop !

 

[robbieh]

Was Kun offside, and was it a free kick before their first goal?

 

[Phil1]

Was Kun offside, and was it a free kick before their first goal?

Seen it dozens of times and still can't say for sure. Definitely not a free kick. Not even close and to make it worse we were breaking for a counter attack when he pulled it back.

 

[Dribble]

Peps buys
Ederson mainly ok
Cancelo ?
Mendy ?
Stones ?
Laporte ok
Walker ok
Rodri ?
Gundogan 50/50
Stirling ?
Mahrez ok
Sane ok
Jesus 50/50
Bernado mainly ok
KDB ok
Yes a couple of these were signed by the club before Pep took over - but the board were laying the foundations for him imo

The point I'm making is we had Kompany, Yaya, Silva & Aguero at their peaks. In that world class level we've got Laporte & KDB. There'a an argument to say Sterling maybe there now, but that's it.

We need to replenish our squad with a sprinkling of gold dust which can make all the difference in games like yesterday.