well what do you expect ,you have been taking the piss for the last 8 hours with your "reasoned debate", every single poster has called you a wum for your opinion,even ric asked you politely to fuck off, if you agree with something that everyone else can see is wrong and not just city fans and then go on about it for 8 hours you're going to get abuse, you aren't having a reasoned debate you actually look like you're wumming , now carry on like you have been doing in a pub and i fancy you would of got a slap, not by me i hastened to add , i'm a lover not a fighter , but nobody likes a know it all who has actually got it totally wrong and doesnt shut up about it.