United Away Sold Out

[BL2blue]

The distance thing wont work because it rewards the southern based Blues who only go to those game etc...

What about those southern blues who do all the home games (that's equivalent of away travel for all home games), but get nothing extra for their trouble. Perhaps the points awarded for the home game element should be based on postcode. If you are in Manchester only 10 points per home game, but 50 per home game if you live in Southampton.

I jest before anyone dives on my comments.

Good point ! I forgot about those Blues who travel from the south and there are quite a lot of them.

 

[jrb]

In theory. Needs tinkering. Imagine a large cricle with smaller inner circles covering the whole of the contry.

The circle. (centre point COMS)

Gtr Manchester 5pts.

The North. ( North West, Yorkshire, etc) 10 pts.

The Midlands. (Midlands/North East, etc) 15pts.

London / South Wales / East Anglia, etc. 20 pts.

The South /South West, etc 25 pts.

The same formula could apply to cup matches. Basically the further you're prepared to travel to watch City, the more away/loyalty points you get. You've made the effort.

With far away games not selling out, those behind on loyalty points, and who can attend a few of these far away matches, will get a chance to catch up. well?

 

[glen quagmire]

In theory. Needs tinkering. Imagine a large cricle with smaller inner circles covering the whole of the contry.

The circle. (centre point COMS)

Gtr Manchester 5pts.

The North. ( North West, Yorkshire, etc) 10 pts.

The Midlands. (Midlands/North East, etc) 15pts.

London / South Wales / East Anglia, etc. 20 pts.

The South /South West, etc 25 pts.

The same formula could apply to cup matches. Basically the further you're prepared to travel to watch City, the more away/loyalty points you get. You've made the effort.

With far away games not selling out, those behind on loyalty points, and who can attend a few of these far away matches will get a chance to catch up. well?

Are these all away games?

 

[jrb]

What about those southern blues who do all the home games (that's equivalent of away travel for all home games), but get nothing extra for their trouble. Perhaps the points awarded for the home game element should be based on postcode. If you are in Manchester only 10 points per home game, but 50 per home game if you live in Southampton.

I jest before anyone dives on my comments.

Good point ! I forgot about those Blues who travel from the south and there are quite a lot of them.

It would work the other way around as well. The club has everyones address and supporters number. Those in the south traveling north, will get similar points to those in the North traveling south. Those in the midlands will always get an even amount of points,as they don't have as much traveling to do. Sounds fair to me.

 

[jrb]

In theory. Needs tinkering. Imagine a large cricle with smaller inner circles covering the whole of the contry.

The circle. (centre point COMS)

Gtr Manchester 5pts.

The North. ( North West, Yorkshire, etc) 10 pts.

The Midlands. (Midlands/North East, etc) 15pts.

London / South Wales / East Anglia, etc. 20 pts.

The South /South West, etc 25 pts.

The same formula could apply to cup matches. Basically the further you're prepared to travel to watch City, the more away/loyalty points you get. You've made the effort.

With far away games not selling out, those behind on loyalty points, and who can attend a few of these far away matches will get a chance to catch up. well?

Are these all away games?

Yes.

 

[BL2blue]

In theory. Needs tinkering. Imagine a large cricle with smaller inner circles covering the whole of the contry.

The circle. (centre point COMS)

Gtr Manchester 5pts.

The North. ( North West, Yorkshire, etc) 10 pts.

The Midlands. (Midlands/North East, etc) 15pts.

London / South Wales / East Anglia, etc. 20 pts.

The South /South West, etc 25 pts.

The same formula could apply to cup matches. Basically the further you're prepared to travel to watch City, the more away/loyalty points you get. You've made the effort.

With far away games not selling out, those behind on loyalty points, and who can attend a few of these far away matches, will get a chance to catch up. well?

It's good but does loyalty solely depend upon distance travelled?

You could have a millionaire travelling 1st class from London compared to a lad on minimum wage hitch-hiking to Eastlands from Yorkshire. Who should get more loyalty points?

 

[beehive_bob]

I know for a fact that the system is abused - there are non-seasoncard holders (and sometimes not even City fans who just happen to be mates of supporters' club members) who have got tickets for high demand games. Fact of life, favouritism and cliques exist, but the only way I can see it changing is to stop any allocations to supporters' clubs altogether. I wrote to the club about this ages ago when at Maine Road and the club said that it was an issue to be addressed. About 10 years on we're still waiting...

Hypothetically.....

I had enough points to get 2 tickets for OT, and I'm not interested in going to that shithole, but my mate has just become a "city" fan, since we bought Tevez. He used to "support" united, and liverpool before that, and he's never been to OT, so he offered me an extra £30 if I'd buy him 2 tickets with my cards.

I'm not a supporters club member but I just phoned up and bought them for him, making myself £30 to spend in the pub watching the match.

Only the supporters club abuse the system obviously......

Yeah, people can buy tickets if they've got enough points and sell them on, like they do on here, but my point was that there are allocations going to supporters' clubs regardless.

I can't stand going to the sty either, last time there was late 80's, so it's not a gripe about the derby, just in general!

 

[felixbg]

sounds too complicated. i say award the points after the game, and have it based on price, distance from manchester, and the result.

e.g. when we got hammered by tottenham last season it was freezing, midweek before xmas, tickets were a fortune and there was only a couple of hundred there, we only got 20 points for it iirc, however under another system we would get 50 points. so,

10 points for any away game
+10 if we get beat
+10 if it's over 50 miles from manchester
+20 if it's abroad


so an away win at wigan would only get you 10 points, whereas if you made the effort to go watch city get stuffed in santander you would get 50.

 

[cleavers]

It's good but does loyalty solely depend upon distance travelled?

You could have a millionaire travelling 1st class from London compared to a lad on minimum wage hitch-hiking to Eastlands from Yorkshire. Who should get more loyalty points?

It should at £1.30/litre, and I hope the hitch-hiker is paying somat to the cost of the petrol ;o)

The point is you can make the system as complex as possible, but the bottom line is that the system works, the vast majority don't abuse it, and it only ever gets moaned about when the OT derby allocation sells out.

I'd make one change, at the start of each new season I'd drop all 50% of the points earned in seasons more than 10 years ago, this would allow younger supporters to catch up, without burdening those older supporters who now have more commitments like family and mortgage etc, and so can't go as often.

 

[cleavers]

Yeah, people can buy tickets if they've got enough points and sell them on, like they do on here, but my point was that there are allocations going to supporters' clubs regardless.

I can't stand going to the sty either, last time there was late 80's, so it's not a gripe about the derby, just in general!

Are there though ? As far as I understand the system now, (and I used to order our branch tickets, but before the 2 supporters clubs merged) each branch has to submit a list of supporters who wish to have a ticket, and they are then allocated a ticket depending on loyalty points, and only season card holders may apply.

There is no "300 tickets to Prestwich branch" allocation as some imagine. As I said above I'd be surprised if the total allocation to supporters clubs for the OT derby is over 150.