United (N) | FA Cup Final | Post-Match Thread

Thought we were good without being brilliant but we’re deserved winners. To be fair to United, they were better than I thought they’d be and made it a tough final. They were very well organised but not hugely threatening bar three or four moments.

We started the game very well. Even besides the fantastic goal from Gündoğan, we played the first 15 minutes really well.

But what a goal it was!

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Thunderbastard from Mr Whippy!

We got a bit sloppy through the middle half hour of the game but could have scored more.

John Stones was magnificent!

Traditional English Double winners. Brilliant, top day!
I thought we played in 2nd gear as the team knew they were shite. We stepped it up a gear just after half time and got the job done. A good training session for next weekend.
 
Saw a great quote earlier that bringing on Mctominay and Weghorst would have been more appropriate if they had a large couch to move up a flight of stairs than it was for having a cup final to win
Whilst we're on a furniture related theme, you,ll luv this from the Guardian (article below)
Re - de gea
"his effort at saving Gündogan’s second goal: not so much a dive as a mild stretch, like a man trying to fish the remote control out from under the sofa"

 
I just re-watched the second half and the Gundo's goal again, all those former United players just prove to be the bunch of crocodiles ready to turn against each other at any moment. Loathsome lot, all blaming de Gea, when he literally saw the ball only after it bounced off the ground for the second time. Keane, Schmeichel, Neville, etc, showing their true character.
Poor Rodders, he looked shattered around 65th minute, he lost the ball when going forward and he was gone for a couple of minutes. Pep saw it and he didn't even tried to reprimand him for that, he knows what he has done for us this season. I hope he'll be getting a cryogenic chamber treatment until next Saturday. But then mighty John Stones stepped in.
Have to admit to being briefly very worried when I saw that with Rodri. I’m not sure if Eriksen was still on the pitch when it happened, but when you see a player just stop like that now, you do fear it could be something really serious.
Anyway, thankfully all seemed ok.
 
For all you Blues who was worried about Rags kicking off with us.
No need to worry.
We parked 30 mins away from stadium at the east side (Rags end) walking through 1000's of Rags. Received a few snide comments but nothing intimidating. The atmosphere wasn't anything like our previous encounters with them. Nothing like the Villa scum a few visits ago.
THE CITY IS BLUE CTID
We walked past The Torch, albeit about 10:30, nothing.
 
Just watched the game back (bbc) we actually had more control than it felt like at the game, Gundo was majestic John Stones magnificent. No way should Fred have seen out the ninety, we may as well give teams a goal start as the officials only level things up anyway, the pen was a joke, they’re basically saying if it touches the hand it’s a pen, a bit like when they use to say well there was contact.
My overwhelming feeling of the day was one of pride, proud of the fans, who where outstanding, everywhere I looked there where 2 & sometimes 3 generations of blues standing shoulder to shoulder singing their hearts out, and from what I saw good all round behaviour. Proud of the performance, we showed character guts bravery & a will to win, despite being against XI players and the officials.
And I was so proud watching the players singing Na na na naa Ciiiiity on the Wembley balcony, that and Peps tears nearly got me….what a day!
 
Agree with that but if they have removed uncertainty on the handball rule why did VAR not overrule the ref at West Ham when Lindlof handled the ball? They are still interpreting based upon who it is…..
I don't watch the Rags unless we play them mate, such is my utter hatred for them, so I can't comment on that one.

There will always be an element of interpretation. Handball is handball, however if the arm is down & the ball hit with power from short range, I've seen calls like that correctly ruled out because of the close proximity.

However, who determines what "close proximity" is & what a "power shot/pass" is? Again this is where interpretation & opinion come in.

Having said this, the arm being away from the body in an unnatural position is probably the closest we'll get to a resolution where there's more for this rule than against it.

But again as pointed out by Grealish, how's he supposed to jump & keep his arms down whilst trying to gain leverage?

It's unfair as Grealish evidently didn't intentionally intend to handle the ball, but I'll give you a scenario if you can be so kind as to give me your considered opinion...

So when keepers are faced with an onrushing player preparing to shoot, goalies are told to make themselves as big as possible to provide a block. I think on this one we can all agree.

Now as someone commented earlier, all handball's should be judged on intent, which is all about interpretation & opinion. But here's a scenario...

A defender (just like a keeper) makes himself big to block a chance which strikes his outstretched arm. He knows a cross or shot is coming, he makes himself big & turns to the side so he's not looking at the ball & the ball strikes his outstretched arm, blocking a cross or shot.

A. Is that handball?

B. Is it intentional?

C. Is it unintentional?
 
One thing that I really noticed yesterday in reflection was the utter lack of identity United fans have….

I saw inflatable bananas, the Poznan, countless city songs new and old

All I heard from United was the odd .u.n.I.t.e.d song and the freebie bucket hats (which I thought was hilarious given who started that trend and which he team he supported)

Of course, I’m sure that comes with basing your identity on success and arrogance - when that’s taking away from you it leaves you naked - from there from the grace of god go we
 
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