United post-match thread

Roberto Manciti said:
Some amongst the frothing hoardes in this thread need to step back and get some perspective.

The first thing to note is that City are top, yes TOP of the PL. They're in first place!!! Quite the crisis, this!

The first team has so far played 16 competitive matches across three competitions this season. Of these, three have finished in defeat. All three were away from home.

The circumstances of those matches were:

v BARCELONA (A) 0-4 UCL: An away match in the Camp Nou against arguably the best club side in world football at this time. And City were giving them a game until the sending off of GK Bravo and having to defend against the best attacking trio in the world with ten players for the last 40 minutes. Despite the eventual scoreline, City can draw positives from the 11 v 11 period of the game. Nothing in this match should give rise to a 'press the panic button' mentality. At the outset, any impartial bookie would have expected a Barcelona win in this one.

v TOTTENHAM (A) 0-2 PL: If you accept that no team is likely to win the PL title undefeated in the current environment, which ties are most likely to produce a reverse? How about an away fixture against an in-form fellow title-contender? Yes, it would be great to have won at WHL. But Spuds are a team which will be challenging at the end of the season. A defeat there does not constitute a crisis. Meanwhile, City have also played away against another PL title contender (according to many pundits). The bunch at OT. And City won that one.

v MANCHESTER UNITED (A) 0-1 EFL Cup: Nine changes for City in this one. A second-string side pitted against the Rags' finest in a hostile derby atmosphere. City conceded once in this match, and if in allowing that goal Mr Bean ... sorry, Dean ... makes a blunder of that magnitude again this season I'll be amazed. Although his failure to award City a penalty and the booking of Iheanacho for falling over are right up there. This match was no vintage affair, but United didn't score a legitimate goal in 90 minutes against City's reserves. The result was decided by having Mr Bean in the middle.

Three matches have ended in draws. Celtic away (UCL) was played in a passionate derby cup-final atmosphere ... not easy. Draws against Everton and Southampton were slightly disappointing in view of them being home ties, but both are strong PL sides. Both are top half in the PL at this time and Everton will expect to challenge for a top four place.

And the other ten matches? CITY WON. And there were some tough fixtures in there. W10 - D3 - L3. There's no crisis to see here.

Did anyone genuinely expect Pep to come to a new club in an unfamiliar highly-competitive league and win everything straight off the bat? If so, you must be mad. City's transfer business in the Summer - signing the cream of world football's 18/19 year-olds is the giveaway: Pep's building for the future. The current team is in transition. The older guys are being phased out gradually. And yet with ten wins so far they're still doing just fine. None of the three defeats were a form-book 'upset'.

Chill out and enjoy the ride with Pep. Gabriel Jesus, Marlos Moreno, Leroy Sane, Oleksandr Zinchenko. Joining earlier youthful signings including Patrick Roberts, Enes Unal and Kelechi Iheanacho - now almost a first-team regular. And remember the prospects emerging from the academy: Maffeo, Garcia, Angelino, Adarabioyo, Diaz and so many more. There is so much to look forward to as this group increasingly play alongside "experienced" senior players such as Kevin De Bruyne, Raheem Sterling and John Stones. They're young too. All coached by the best manager in the game and backed by the most professional owners in the sport. The ingredients are in place for a golden era.

There has NEVER BEEN a better time to be a City fan! Stop moaning, show a little patience and enjoy what the next few seasons bring. SMILE! :-)
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Nice one......we do have to get some perspective, bit like the previous 2 seasons 'we've lost and drawn so we're almost certainly out of the Champs league now.....'
Unlike Manuel, Pep was always going to use squad players and youngsters in this competition so as much as it is understandably annoying to lose to Mythical U****d at the theatre of bullshit it isn't the end of the world
 
SWP's back said:
Yes United are the only English team to manage that treble however;

In the League Cup they beat Forest in the 4th round with a weakened team and lost in the 1/4 final 3-1 to Spurs with a weakened team.

You see they were able to win the FA Cup as it starts off with its own weekends and thus never clogs the midweeks in the same way as the League Cup and I'd certainly be disappointed if we played this reserve side in a derby in the 3rd or 4th round when they'd be no need to.

People that do understand football know why managers rest players for certain games in certain periods and we play 7 games in 21 days. Also the side that he put out was certainly not "binary", they had enough about them to win last night.
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Ok. I concede if we beat both Puley's Marvels and Barca. You concede if we don't. Because nothing less than the two wins would be worth throwing this game.

Yeah? Are we on?
 
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levets said:
Pep isn't interested in creating a crisis for united. He will only care about our situation. He will think there is nothing to be gained by playing a full strength team and risking injuries ahead of wba and Barca. I was as pissed off as you, but it's clear where his priorities lie.
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And that's where our two approaches differ so much (us and rags).
They are misguidedly fixated on trying to keep up with/restrict us, while we are simply executing our plan.
Taking their eye off the real ball for so long is what's created deep deep problems for their future.
 
hilts said:
Maybe because even though this competition is known for having second teams playing in it there are always dumb supporters who cough up and complain afterwards, if someone is daft enough to pay £40 for a Mickey Mouse cup ticket that's their problem.
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Criticising those who attend games on a thread involving the rags. How very appropriate.
 
sir baconface said:
Ok. I concede if we beat both Puley's Marvels and Barca. You concede if we don't. Because nothing less than the two wins would be worth throwing this game.

Yeah? Are we on?
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I'd say a win and a draw (the point may be very important seeing as BMG will be playing Barca in a dead rubber which is always a worry) would justify Pep's choice in the short term.

That's obviously ignoring the 4 free midweeks we now have that we missed out on last season which makes 12 points in the league easier to come by in the long term.

I'd soon scrap the whole bloody competition like the Spanish and Germans.
 
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