we all knew he was biased, as was Bernstein, but shouldn't he be too busy?blueinsa said:So the vice-chairman of the FA is busy signing players for a single club, thus showing a bias?
BlueMoonz1977 said:well it didn't take too long for the actual truth to come out did it - how many actually believed that wee davey and woodwank at old toilet had anything to do with signing mata !!!!
Looks like gollum is already being undermined and really does not have a fucking clue how to go about building a side of his own back
taken from today's express:
SIR ALEX FERGUSON and David Gill teamed up again to help secure Manchester United’s club record £37 million capture of Chelsea playmaker Juan Mata.
Sunday Express Sport can reveal that former boss Ferguson and ex-chief executive Gill spearheaded hush hush talks to secure Mata while attending last Sunday’s Premier League clash with Jose Mourinho’s side at Stamford Bridge.
Once manager David Moyes had approved the move for the Spaniard Ferguson and Gill swept into action using their contacts to seal a deal before leaving West London.
United knew they had to learn quickly from the mistakes of the summer transfer window in which hesitation deprived them of the opportunity of signing Cesc Fabregas from Barcelona and the chance of hijacking Real Madrid’s move for Tottenham’s Gareth Bale.
It also cost them another £4.5 million in the eventual deal for Everton’s Marouane Fellaini.
Since then Gill’s successor Ed Woodward has confessed some naivety over last summer’s signings strategy and was happy to stand back and allow Ferguson and Gill to open some doors over Mata.
There was also no haggling over the fee – even though it meant Chelsea making a £13 million profit on the Spanish international – United learning from the mistakes of last summer.
In fact with the owners, the Glazers, fully backing a restructuring of the squad Moyes inherited, the United scouting team were on full alert to recommend further signings.
Only marquee performers have been under consideration. Mata came into this category but until a few weeks ago United felt he was unobtainable and they were looking elsewhere.
Alerted to the fact that Mourinho was deliberately cold shouldering the midfielder who has been Chelsea’s player of the year for the past two seasons, they sprang into action to smash their previous biggest outlay, the £30.75 million needed to bring Dimitar Berbatov from Spurs.
United are anxious to tie down Wayne Rooney with a new contract but until it’s signed doubts over his long term future will persist.
Chelsea continue to be interested in the England star and so another top line striker is on the Old Trafford wish list.
There was talk within OId Trafford of triggering the £32 million release clause enabling United to land Atletico Madrid’s Diego Costa in the January window.
However it’s understood that chief scout Jim Lawlor left the latest spying mission on the forward unimpressed and so Costa has been relegated to the deals pending tray.
On Friday night Moyes watched Bayern Munich and although striker Mario Mandzukic was injured, he could be on the move in the summer with the arrival of Robert Lewandowski from Borussia Dortmund.
The Croatian has been on Moyes’ radar for some time. As reported in Sunday Express Sport Moyes feels more confident when it comes to highlighting potential targets after reorganising his scouting network, having Everton old boys like Robbie Cooke, John Murtough and Mick Doherty on board.
These are people he trusts and who will help formulate a new look United squad which will carry the Moyes moniker.
There is no doubt that Moyes, reluctant during his time at Everton to risk the club’s money on big signings, has struggled to change his mindset even though the plentiful Manchester United coffers offer a greater licence to spend.
At £27.5 million the purchase of Fellaini, who has still to prove himself at Old Trafford, hasn’t exactly imbued a naturally reticent Moyes when it comes to splashing the cash.
He originally blanched at the asking price for Mata but it was quickly pointed out that the benchmark for these type of players was set by Arsenal paying £42.5 million for Mesut Ozil.
Having bitten the bullet once, stand by for further expensive forays into the transfer market with Juventus pair Arturo Vidal and Paul Pogba under review.
samharris said:ifiwasarichfan said:United have bought themselves an excellent player for what I think is a fair price.
Now if they can and go out and get another seven or eight excellent players pretty damn sharpish they will begin to resemble a very decent football side.
Excellent this Excellent that without a decent Manager it means fuck all. :)
BlueMoonz1977 said:well it didn't take too long for the actual truth to come out did it - how many actually believed that wee davey and woodwank at old toilet had anything to do with signing mata !!!!
Looks like gollum is already being undermined and really does not have a fucking clue how to go about building a side of his own back
taken from today's express:
SIR ALEX FERGUSON and David Gill teamed up again to help secure Manchester United’s club record £37 million capture of Chelsea playmaker Juan Mata.
Sunday Express Sport can reveal that former boss Ferguson and ex-chief executive Gill spearheaded hush hush talks to secure Mata while attending last Sunday’s Premier League clash with Jose Mourinho’s side at Stamford Bridge.
Once manager David Moyes had approved the move for the Spaniard Ferguson and Gill swept into action using their contacts to seal a deal before leaving West London.
United knew they had to learn quickly from the mistakes of the summer transfer window in which hesitation deprived them of the opportunity of signing Cesc Fabregas from Barcelona and the chance of hijacking Real Madrid’s move for Tottenham’s Gareth Bale.
It also cost them another £4.5 million in the eventual deal for Everton’s Marouane Fellaini.
Since then Gill’s successor Ed Woodward has confessed some naivety over last summer’s signings strategy and was happy to stand back and allow Ferguson and Gill to open some doors over Mata.
There was also no haggling over the fee – even though it meant Chelsea making a £13 million profit on the Spanish international – United learning from the mistakes of last summer.
In fact with the owners, the Glazers, fully backing a restructuring of the squad Moyes inherited, the United scouting team were on full alert to recommend further signings.
Only marquee performers have been under consideration. Mata came into this category but until a few weeks ago United felt he was unobtainable and they were looking elsewhere.
Alerted to the fact that Mourinho was deliberately cold shouldering the midfielder who has been Chelsea’s player of the year for the past two seasons, they sprang into action to smash their previous biggest outlay, the £30.75 million needed to bring Dimitar Berbatov from Spurs.
United are anxious to tie down Wayne Rooney with a new contract but until it’s signed doubts over his long term future will persist.
Chelsea continue to be interested in the England star and so another top line striker is on the Old Trafford wish list.
There was talk within OId Trafford of triggering the £32 million release clause enabling United to land Atletico Madrid’s Diego Costa in the January window.
However it’s understood that chief scout Jim Lawlor left the latest spying mission on the forward unimpressed and so Costa has been relegated to the deals pending tray.
On Friday night Moyes watched Bayern Munich and although striker Mario Mandzukic was injured, he could be on the move in the summer with the arrival of Robert Lewandowski from Borussia Dortmund.
The Croatian has been on Moyes’ radar for some time. As reported in Sunday Express Sport Moyes feels more confident when it comes to highlighting potential targets after reorganising his scouting network, having Everton old boys like Robbie Cooke, John Murtough and Mick Doherty on board.
These are people he trusts and who will help formulate a new look United squad which will carry the Moyes moniker.
There is no doubt that Moyes, reluctant during his time at Everton to risk the club’s money on big signings, has struggled to change his mindset even though the plentiful Manchester United coffers offer a greater licence to spend.
At £27.5 million the purchase of Fellaini, who has still to prove himself at Old Trafford, hasn’t exactly imbued a naturally reticent Moyes when it comes to splashing the cash.
He originally blanched at the asking price for Mata but it was quickly pointed out that the benchmark for these type of players was set by Arsenal paying £42.5 million for Mesut Ozil.
Having bitten the bullet once, stand by for further expensive forays into the transfer market with Juventus pair Arturo Vidal and Paul Pogba under review.
all the people you've mentioned work for the clubs they were helping, Gill works for the f.a.alfabianchi said:BlueMoonz1977 said:well it didn't take too long for the actual truth to come out did it - how many actually believed that wee davey and woodwank at old toilet had anything to do with signing mata !!!!
Looks like gollum is already being undermined and really does not have a fucking clue how to go about building a side of his own back
taken from today's express:
SIR ALEX FERGUSON and David Gill teamed up again to help secure Manchester United’s club record £37 million capture of Chelsea playmaker Juan Mata.
Sunday Express Sport can reveal that former boss Ferguson and ex-chief executive Gill spearheaded hush hush talks to secure Mata while attending last Sunday’s Premier League clash with Jose Mourinho’s side at Stamford Bridge.
Once manager David Moyes had approved the move for the Spaniard Ferguson and Gill swept into action using their contacts to seal a deal before leaving West London.
United knew they had to learn quickly from the mistakes of the summer transfer window in which hesitation deprived them of the opportunity of signing Cesc Fabregas from Barcelona and the chance of hijacking Real Madrid’s move for Tottenham’s Gareth Bale.
It also cost them another £4.5 million in the eventual deal for Everton’s Marouane Fellaini.
Since then Gill’s successor Ed Woodward has confessed some naivety over last summer’s signings strategy and was happy to stand back and allow Ferguson and Gill to open some doors over Mata.
There was also no haggling over the fee – even though it meant Chelsea making a £13 million profit on the Spanish international – United learning from the mistakes of last summer.
In fact with the owners, the Glazers, fully backing a restructuring of the squad Moyes inherited, the United scouting team were on full alert to recommend further signings.
Only marquee performers have been under consideration. Mata came into this category but until a few weeks ago United felt he was unobtainable and they were looking elsewhere.
Alerted to the fact that Mourinho was deliberately cold shouldering the midfielder who has been Chelsea’s player of the year for the past two seasons, they sprang into action to smash their previous biggest outlay, the £30.75 million needed to bring Dimitar Berbatov from Spurs.
United are anxious to tie down Wayne Rooney with a new contract but until it’s signed doubts over his long term future will persist.
Chelsea continue to be interested in the England star and so another top line striker is on the Old Trafford wish list.
There was talk within OId Trafford of triggering the £32 million release clause enabling United to land Atletico Madrid’s Diego Costa in the January window.
However it’s understood that chief scout Jim Lawlor left the latest spying mission on the forward unimpressed and so Costa has been relegated to the deals pending tray.
On Friday night Moyes watched Bayern Munich and although striker Mario Mandzukic was injured, he could be on the move in the summer with the arrival of Robert Lewandowski from Borussia Dortmund.
The Croatian has been on Moyes’ radar for some time. As reported in Sunday Express Sport Moyes feels more confident when it comes to highlighting potential targets after reorganising his scouting network, having Everton old boys like Robbie Cooke, John Murtough and Mick Doherty on board.
These are people he trusts and who will help formulate a new look United squad which will carry the Moyes moniker.
There is no doubt that Moyes, reluctant during his time at Everton to risk the club’s money on big signings, has struggled to change his mindset even though the plentiful Manchester United coffers offer a greater licence to spend.
At £27.5 million the purchase of Fellaini, who has still to prove himself at Old Trafford, hasn’t exactly imbued a naturally reticent Moyes when it comes to splashing the cash.
He originally blanched at the asking price for Mata but it was quickly pointed out that the benchmark for these type of players was set by Arsenal paying £42.5 million for Mesut Ozil.
Having bitten the bullet once, stand by for further expensive forays into the transfer market with Juventus pair Arturo Vidal and Paul Pogba under review.
How is that any different from us using Txiki and Ferran. I don't think Pelle even had a say in last summers signings, they were done while he was still in Spain. I think most clubs go down this route nowadays. Zidane does Real Madrid's meeting and greeting, like Paddy did during the Nasri deal. Beckenbauer is still heavily involved at BM. Gone are the days when PL managers turn up a kids houses trying to sign them over a brew.
aguero93:20 said:all the people you've mentioned work for the clubs they were helping, Gill works for the f.a.alfabianchi said:BlueMoonz1977 said:well it didn't take too long for the actual truth to come out did it - how many actually believed that wee davey and woodwank at old toilet had anything to do with signing mata !!!!
Looks like gollum is already being undermined and really does not have a fucking clue how to go about building a side of his own back
taken from today's express:
SIR ALEX FERGUSON and David Gill teamed up again to help secure Manchester United’s club record £37 million capture of Chelsea playmaker Juan Mata.
Sunday Express Sport can reveal that former boss Ferguson and ex-chief executive Gill spearheaded hush hush talks to secure Mata while attending last Sunday’s Premier League clash with Jose Mourinho’s side at Stamford Bridge.
Once manager David Moyes had approved the move for the Spaniard Ferguson and Gill swept into action using their contacts to seal a deal before leaving West London.
United knew they had to learn quickly from the mistakes of the summer transfer window in which hesitation deprived them of the opportunity of signing Cesc Fabregas from Barcelona and the chance of hijacking Real Madrid’s move for Tottenham’s Gareth Bale.
It also cost them another £4.5 million in the eventual deal for Everton’s Marouane Fellaini.
Since then Gill’s successor Ed Woodward has confessed some naivety over last summer’s signings strategy and was happy to stand back and allow Ferguson and Gill to open some doors over Mata.
There was also no haggling over the fee – even though it meant Chelsea making a £13 million profit on the Spanish international – United learning from the mistakes of last summer.
In fact with the owners, the Glazers, fully backing a restructuring of the squad Moyes inherited, the United scouting team were on full alert to recommend further signings.
Only marquee performers have been under consideration. Mata came into this category but until a few weeks ago United felt he was unobtainable and they were looking elsewhere.
Alerted to the fact that Mourinho was deliberately cold shouldering the midfielder who has been Chelsea’s player of the year for the past two seasons, they sprang into action to smash their previous biggest outlay, the £30.75 million needed to bring Dimitar Berbatov from Spurs.
United are anxious to tie down Wayne Rooney with a new contract but until it’s signed doubts over his long term future will persist.
Chelsea continue to be interested in the England star and so another top line striker is on the Old Trafford wish list.
There was talk within OId Trafford of triggering the £32 million release clause enabling United to land Atletico Madrid’s Diego Costa in the January window.
However it’s understood that chief scout Jim Lawlor left the latest spying mission on the forward unimpressed and so Costa has been relegated to the deals pending tray.
On Friday night Moyes watched Bayern Munich and although striker Mario Mandzukic was injured, he could be on the move in the summer with the arrival of Robert Lewandowski from Borussia Dortmund.
The Croatian has been on Moyes’ radar for some time. As reported in Sunday Express Sport Moyes feels more confident when it comes to highlighting potential targets after reorganising his scouting network, having Everton old boys like Robbie Cooke, John Murtough and Mick Doherty on board.
These are people he trusts and who will help formulate a new look United squad which will carry the Moyes moniker.
There is no doubt that Moyes, reluctant during his time at Everton to risk the club’s money on big signings, has struggled to change his mindset even though the plentiful Manchester United coffers offer a greater licence to spend.
At £27.5 million the purchase of Fellaini, who has still to prove himself at Old Trafford, hasn’t exactly imbued a naturally reticent Moyes when it comes to splashing the cash.
He originally blanched at the asking price for Mata but it was quickly pointed out that the benchmark for these type of players was set by Arsenal paying £42.5 million for Mesut Ozil.
Having bitten the bullet once, stand by for further expensive forays into the transfer market with Juventus pair Arturo Vidal and Paul Pogba under review.
How is that any different from us using Txiki and Ferran. I don't think Pelle even had a say in last summers signings, they were done while he was still in Spain. I think most clubs go down this route nowadays. Zidane does Real Madrid's meeting and greeting, like Paddy did during the Nasri deal. Beckenbauer is still heavily involved at BM. Gone are the days when PL managers turn up a kids houses trying to sign them over a brew.
aguero93:20 said:all the people you've mentioned work for the clubs they were helping, Gill works for the f.a.alfabianchi said:BlueMoonz1977 said:well it didn't take too long for the actual truth to come out did it - how many actually believed that wee davey and woodwank at old toilet had anything to do with signing mata !!!!
Looks like gollum is already being undermined and really does not have a fucking clue how to go about building a side of his own back
taken from today's express:
SIR ALEX FERGUSON and David Gill teamed up again to help secure Manchester United’s club record £37 million capture of Chelsea playmaker Juan Mata.
Sunday Express Sport can reveal that former boss Ferguson and ex-chief executive Gill spearheaded hush hush talks to secure Mata while attending last Sunday’s Premier League clash with Jose Mourinho’s side at Stamford Bridge.
Once manager David Moyes had approved the move for the Spaniard Ferguson and Gill swept into action using their contacts to seal a deal before leaving West London.
United knew they had to learn quickly from the mistakes of the summer transfer window in which hesitation deprived them of the opportunity of signing Cesc Fabregas from Barcelona and the chance of hijacking Real Madrid’s move for Tottenham’s Gareth Bale.
It also cost them another £4.5 million in the eventual deal for Everton’s Marouane Fellaini.
Since then Gill’s successor Ed Woodward has confessed some naivety over last summer’s signings strategy and was happy to stand back and allow Ferguson and Gill to open some doors over Mata.
There was also no haggling over the fee – even though it meant Chelsea making a £13 million profit on the Spanish international – United learning from the mistakes of last summer.
In fact with the owners, the Glazers, fully backing a restructuring of the squad Moyes inherited, the United scouting team were on full alert to recommend further signings.
Only marquee performers have been under consideration. Mata came into this category but until a few weeks ago United felt he was unobtainable and they were looking elsewhere.
Alerted to the fact that Mourinho was deliberately cold shouldering the midfielder who has been Chelsea’s player of the year for the past two seasons, they sprang into action to smash their previous biggest outlay, the £30.75 million needed to bring Dimitar Berbatov from Spurs.
United are anxious to tie down Wayne Rooney with a new contract but until it’s signed doubts over his long term future will persist.
Chelsea continue to be interested in the England star and so another top line striker is on the Old Trafford wish list.
There was talk within OId Trafford of triggering the £32 million release clause enabling United to land Atletico Madrid’s Diego Costa in the January window.
However it’s understood that chief scout Jim Lawlor left the latest spying mission on the forward unimpressed and so Costa has been relegated to the deals pending tray.
On Friday night Moyes watched Bayern Munich and although striker Mario Mandzukic was injured, he could be on the move in the summer with the arrival of Robert Lewandowski from Borussia Dortmund.
The Croatian has been on Moyes’ radar for some time. As reported in Sunday Express Sport Moyes feels more confident when it comes to highlighting potential targets after reorganising his scouting network, having Everton old boys like Robbie Cooke, John Murtough and Mick Doherty on board.
These are people he trusts and who will help formulate a new look United squad which will carry the Moyes moniker.
There is no doubt that Moyes, reluctant during his time at Everton to risk the club’s money on big signings, has struggled to change his mindset even though the plentiful Manchester United coffers offer a greater licence to spend.
At £27.5 million the purchase of Fellaini, who has still to prove himself at Old Trafford, hasn’t exactly imbued a naturally reticent Moyes when it comes to splashing the cash.
He originally blanched at the asking price for Mata but it was quickly pointed out that the benchmark for these type of players was set by Arsenal paying £42.5 million for Mesut Ozil.
Having bitten the bullet once, stand by for further expensive forays into the transfer market with Juventus pair Arturo Vidal and Paul Pogba under review.
How is that any different from us using Txiki and Ferran. I don't think Pelle even had a say in last summers signings, they were done while he was still in Spain. I think most clubs go down this route nowadays. Zidane does Real Madrid's meeting and greeting, like Paddy did during the Nasri deal. Beckenbauer is still heavily involved at BM. Gone are the days when PL managers turn up a kids houses trying to sign them over a brew.
tolmie's hairdoo said:Zaha £17m
Fellaini £28m
Mata £37m
So since last January they have spent £82m.
That is without any player sales.
We spent £100m and recouped £30m for Balotelli and Tevez.