United thread 2013/14 (continued)

[bluemoon32]

Bayern were shit last night, hopefully they'll be better in the 2nd leg.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Maybe in the grown up world it is actually possible to discuss the relative merits and faults of players objectively, even if they are rags.

Of course it's possible. In my opinion he is not an out and out striker. He has pace, fast feet, and good close control. However doesn't seem to possess the clinical instinct of a top top striker. And at the age of 24 I can't see him progressing much more

He is an out and out striker just not a very good one. His level is back at Sunderland, that's all. He seems like a good lad, and he'll run and run (fast) which will always endear him to the British crowd, but top level footballer he ain't, and England nor the rags (unless they're insistent on staying in 7th for the forseeable) should have him anywhere near the first team.

I find myself saying it a lot but he is very good for England. He ll=ooks a much better player in Woy's set up than he does pandering to wooney and rapeman

 

[Blue Mist]

Moyez would have loved to play last nights formation against us and Liverpool and may have got more success if he had done so. However whilst it's 'politically' acceptable to play against Bayern that way it's not against us because that would be an admission of our superiority. And therein lies Moyes problem, he's better managing the underdogs, defending deep and sneaking a win. That style of play is not acceptable at the Swamp. Wow! - Hawkesby and Jacobs have just said the same thing as I type. Great minds?[/quote]

So how do we know you are not either Hawkesby or Jacobs eh ? and you know what we think of them. I think we should be told.

 

[eversince 76]

Don't like to say it, but United deserved a draw having the better chances. Bayern were onesided, dull and just on the pitch to have posession of the ball. Playing 4 or 5 times more passes than United and created half the chances United got. Exactly playing the way Barca did the last year under Pep and boring the hell out of me with their endless tiki-taki. I.e.: boring.
Hope they do one to United in Munich. We won and Arsenal drew, so United - even if they are not in our league - are by no means without a chance.

 

[Inter Me Nan]

Don't like to say it, but United deserved a draw having the better chances. Bayern were onesided, dull and just on the pitch to have posession of the ball. Playing 4 or 5 times more passes than United and created half the chances United got. Exactly playing the way Barca did the last year under Pep and boring the hell out of me with their endless tiki-taki. I.e.: boring.Hope they do one to United in Munich. We won and Arsenal drew, so United - even if they are not in our league - are by no means without a chance.

Bob on that, i turned over at half time.

 

[BigJoe#1]

How the fuck did they get out of that 1-1, the lucky fucking bastards.

Ok, I'll bite - just how were the rags 'lucky'?
The one clear cut chance in the game fell to them.
Bayern were way below par, and created precious little, despite overwhelming early possession.
From a purely objective viewpoint, I thought the result was pretty fair myself.

26% possession, the lowest recorded by a home side ever in the Champions League, another accolade for wee Davey's CV.

That stat alone tells you how fortunate they were..... Don't you think?

 

[BigOscar]

Danny Welbeck is looking more and more like the new Heskey. Fast, powerful, runs all day, holds it up reasonably well, can bully players out wide, but one of the worst finishers you will ever see

 

[Blue Til Death]

How the fuck did they get out of that 1-1, the lucky fucking bastards.

Ok, I'll bite - just how were the rags 'lucky'?
The one clear cut chance in the game fell to them.
Bayern were way below par, and created precious little, despite overwhelming early possession.
From a purely objective viewpoint, I thought the result was pretty fair myself.

26% possession, the lowest recorded by a home side ever in the Champions League.

That stat alone tells you how fortunate they were..... Don't you think?

Alas, possession wins fuck all and farting about outside an opponents area for 74% of the game is a meaningless stat. Bayern were poor by their standards and toothless in attack, the rags could have won that game.
Despite all that, the current rag turd team is beyond polishing and their chance was last night, Bayern wont play that badly again, especially at the Allianz. In Germany they will be woman slapped ;-))

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

How the fuck did they get out of that 1-1, the lucky fucking bastards.

Ok, I'll bite - just how were the rags 'lucky'?
The one clear cut chance in the game fell to them.
Bayern were way below par, and created precious little, despite overwhelming early possession.
From a purely objective viewpoint, I thought the result was pretty fair myself.

26% possession, the lowest recorded by a home side ever in the Champions League, another accolade for wee Davey's CV.

That stat alone tells you how fortunate they were..... Don't you think?

No, I don't think that at all.
Possession is just one of many statistics that constitute the 'facts' of a game.
You could have 99% of the possession, but if you don't achieve a shot on target for all of that pressure, then you have achieved no more than the opposition.
Winning games is about creating and taking chances, not competing for the 'Barca Most Unbroken Passes Sequence' trophy.
I'd say that Bayern were equally fortunate - they created next to nothing, and the opposition missed a sitter.
So therefore a draw was about right.

 

[Peter Bodak's Quiff]

taken in context, the draw last night was a great result for the rags, considering their recent home performances against quality opposition, where they have been well beaten, the bog eyed one had no option but to set his team up defensively as Bayern had brushed aside better teams than united in recent seasons.
Normal sevice should be resumed in the second leg,