United thread 2013/14

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Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Of course not. We're worth around £2bn and no club in the league rivals our infrastructure, stadium or commercial weight. We have won 5 of the last 7 league titles and have the best youth set up in the country.

They did land that Giggs, Beckham, etc class which was amazing, credit to them for that. However, they can only ride that out so long. Just because Scholes and Neville were home grown, but that was 20 years ago.

Right now I see better younger players at Everton, Spurs, Liverpool and Southampton.
 
The Pink Panther said:
flb said:
Thats all well and good if you have a talented young squad that can pick up the pace with a new manager

Evra,Wio,Carrick,Vidic,RVP,Giggs are all well over 30, serious money to replace players like that.

Smalling,Jones,Young,Kagawi,Nani,Wellshit and the little poo are not good enough players for a club of Uniteds standing.


Serious serious surgery needed from top to bottom, the fact that GPC spunked big money on an ageing injury prone striker to stick two fingers up at City makes it all the more laughable-and now by all accounts they will be losing there two best players is music to my fucking ears.


The tick as well and truly fucking tocked.

As much as we take the piss, Jones will become a top quality centre half
The rest, I agree

Not with the rags if the story about Moyes thinking he can't cut it are true.
 
strongbowholic said:
The Pink Panther said:
flb said:
Thats all well and good if you have a talented young squad that can pick up the pace with a new manager

Evra,Wio,Carrick,Vidic,RVP,Giggs are all well over 30, serious money to replace players like that.

Smalling,Jones,Young,Kagawi,Nani,Wellshit and the little poo are not good enough players for a club of Uniteds standing.


Serious serious surgery needed from top to bottom, the fact that GPC spunked big money on an ageing injury prone striker to stick two fingers up at City makes it all the more laughable-and now by all accounts they will be losing there two best players is music to my fucking ears.


The tick as well and truly fucking tocked.

As much as we take the piss, Jones will become a world champion gurner
The rest, I agree

Fixed.


Hahaha !
 
bluethrunthru said:
ManCitizens. said:
At least Fellaini's back in training.

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha -- gentlemen tonight's winner ......

fuckin ell, pmsl.
Cant catch my breath bbwwwaahhhhhhh<br /><br />-- Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:48 pm --<br /><br />
bluethrunthru said:
ManCitizens. said:
At least Fellaini's back in training.

DWBdagJ.gif



Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha -- gentlemen tonight's winner ......

fuckin ell, pmsl.
Cant catch my breath bbwwwaahhhhhhh
 
superseiyan said:
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Of course not. We're worth around £2bn and no club in the league rivals our infrastructure, stadium or commercial weight. We have won 5 of the last 7 league titles and have the best youth set up in the country.

They did land that Giggs, Beckham, etc class which was amazing, credit to them for that. However, they can only ride that out so long. Just because Scholes and Neville were home grown, but that was 20 years ago.

Right now I see better younger players at Everton, Spurs, Liverpool and Southampton.

Southampton seem to be head and shoulders above all others at the moment, good to see, hopefully will be us a few years down the line.
 
wireblue said:
caller on now thinks they should sign reus and "gunderang" from dortmund
If they were to make fourth it would not be that unrealistic. The only stumbling block is Madrid seem to be set to sign Gundogan. Say another midfielder takes their fancy then a bid of 60 million +Kagawa would leave the Dortmund fans more than happy to sell Gundogan+Reus.

Moyes is just doing a terrible job at United. The squad only need slight rebuilding and should have been about where Chelsea were now. They should have been a few points off the top and starting to settle into the managers new style. He is a good manager, but no where near good enough for title challengers and it appears not even good enough for a top 4 team. He looks way out of his depth.

United could start with a back 5 of De Gea, Vidic, Jones, Rafael and Evra. De Gea is the best keeper in the league and still very young. Evra is no where near what he once was, but can still do a job. They have good depth in the back with Smalling, Evans and Fabio. Going into this season they were fine, but might need a left back in the summer.

In midfield is where everyone knows they are weak. The only midfielder they had good enough for the top 4 is Carrick. Still they had 30 million to spend. Why didn't they buy Fernandinho, Moutinho, De Rossi or Gustavo? They could even had looked at slightly weaker players like Cabaye, Mcmarthur or Strootman. All of those would have vastly improved the midfield. Instead Moyes spent the best part of 30 million on Feilani; he is very good player, but not good enough or the right player for United.

On the winger they have two very promising wingers in Januzaj and Zaha. Zaha is raw and done nothing, but then again Moyes was hesitant to play Barkley last year. Young, Valencia and Nani may not be good enough, but can do a job for a season.

Upfront they have lots of quality with RVP and Rooney. Welbeck and Hernandez are more than capable back up. Kagawa can do a job behind the striker too.

Their future depends on who gets top four. If they get top 4 then they can continue to attract the big names and easily readdress the problems in the squad. Moyes however, is not good enough to challenge Mourinho or the City squad. Getting top four and winning the odd trophy is the best they could do with him.

If they don't get top 4 then once more it depends on who gets it. Best case scenario for them Everton grab top 4. They simply dont have the infrastructure, the clout or the money to solidify there place. Playing in the CL would mean they certainly do not get back there the next season. However, if Liverpool get top 4 then United's decline could become very serious in a hurry. Liverpool have the name, the clout in Europe, the talented young manager and the money to take their place in the top four. This could really lead to them falling into just a top 6 side.

Other big problems they have in the summer is that there two best players are probably going to be off if they don't make top 4. Rooney would have just 1 year left on his contract and they would be forced to sell. RVP looked unhappy from the start of the season and would likely demand a move at the end of the year. These two would bring in money, but United out of the top 4 and without Rooney/RVP (their most famous players) would really struggle to replace them.
 
superseiyan said:
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Of course not. We're worth around £2bn and no club in the league rivals our infrastructure, stadium or commercial weight. We have won 5 of the last 7 league titles and have the best youth set up in the country.

They did land that Giggs, Beckham, etc class which was amazing, credit to them for that. However, they can only ride that out so long. Just because Scholes and Neville were home grown, but that was 20 years ago.

Right now I see better younger players at Everton, Spurs, Liverpool and Southampton.

southampton have impressed me.

they seem to have a steady production line a quality players.they have a better chance of holding onto them these days which should shake up the league a bit.
 
supercrystal7 said:
wireblue said:
caller on now thinks they should sign reus and "gunderang" from dortmund
If they were to make fourth it would not be that unrealistic. The only stumbling block is Madrid seem to be set to sign Gundogan. Say another midfielder takes their fancy then a bid of 60 million +Kagawa would leave the Dortmund fans more than happy to sell Gundogan+Reus.

Moyes is just doing a terrible job at United. The squad only need slight rebuilding and should have been about where Chelsea were now. They should have been a few points off the top and starting to settle into the managers new style. He is a good manager, but no where near good enough for title challengers and it appears not even good enough for a top 4 team. He looks way out of his depth.

United could start with a back 5 of De Gea, Vidic, Jones, Rafael and Evra. De Gea is the best keeper in the league and still very young. Evra is no where near what he once was, but can still do a job. They have good depth in the back with Smalling, Evans and Fabio. Going into this season they were fine, but might need a left back in the summer.

In midfield is where everyone knows they are weak. The only midfielder they had good enough for the top 4 is Carrick. Still they had 30 million to spend. Why didn't they buy Fernandinho, Moutinho, De Rossi or Gustavo? They could even had looked at slightly weaker players like Cabaye, Mcmarthur or Strootman. All of those would have vastly improved the midfield. Instead Moyes spent the best part of 30 million on Feilani; he is very good player, but not good enough or the right player for United.

On the winger they have two very promising wingers in Januzaj and Zaha. Zaha is raw and done nothing, but then again Moyes was hesitant to play Barkley last year. Young, Valencia and Nani may not be good enough, but can do a job for a season.

Upfront they have lots of quality with RVP and Rooney. Welbeck and Hernandez are more than capable back up. Kagawa can do a job behind the striker too.

There future depends on who gets top four. If they get top 4 then they can continue to attract the big names and easily readdress the problems in the squad. Moyes however, is not good enough to challenge Mourinho or the City squad. Getting top four and winning the odd trophy is the best they could do with him.

If they don't get top 4 then once more it depends on who gets it. Best case scenario for them Everton grab top 4. They simply dont have the infrastructure, the clout or the money to solidify there place. Playing in the CL would mean they certainly do not get back there the next season. However, if Liverpool get top 4 then United's decline could become very serious in a hurry. Liverpool have the name, the clout in Europe, the talented young manager and the money to take their place in the top four. This could really lead to them falling into just a top 6 side.

Other big problems they have in the summer is that there two best players are probably going to be off if they don't make top 4. Rooney would have just 1 year left on his contract and they would be forced to sell. RVP looked unhappy from the start of the season and would likely demand a move at the end of the year. These two would bring in money, but United out of the top 4 and without Rooney/RVP (their most famous players) would really struggle to replace them.

Seriously? He's a good keeper, but not the best in the league.

You're right about the midfield though, and if Rooney and RVP really do agitate for a move at the end of the year ..... they will need to spend very, very big money to compete for the title again.
 
bowdonblue said:
supercrystal7 said:
wireblue said:
caller on now thinks they should sign reus and "gunderang" from dortmund
If they were to make fourth it would not be that unrealistic. The only stumbling block is Madrid seem to be set to sign Gundogan. Say another midfielder takes their fancy then a bid of 60 million +Kagawa would leave the Dortmund fans more than happy to sell Gundogan+Reus.

Moyes is just doing a terrible job at United. The squad only need slight rebuilding and should have been about where Chelsea were now. They should have been a few points off the top and starting to settle into the managers new style. He is a good manager, but no where near good enough for title challengers and it appears not even good enough for a top 4 team. He looks way out of his depth.

United could start with a back 5 of De Gea, Vidic, Jones, Rafael and Evra. De Gea is the best keeper in the league and still very young. Evra is no where near what he once was, but can still do a job. They have good depth in the back with Smalling, Evans and Fabio. Going into this season they were fine, but might need a left back in the summer.

In midfield is where everyone knows they are weak. The only midfielder they had good enough for the top 4 is Carrick. Still they had 30 million to spend. Why didn't they buy Fernandinho, Moutinho, De Rossi or Gustavo? They could even had looked at slightly weaker players like Cabaye, Mcmarthur or Strootman. All of those would have vastly improved the midfield. Instead Moyes spent the best part of 30 million on Feilani; he is very good player, but not good enough or the right player for United.

On the winger they have two very promising wingers in Januzaj and Zaha. Zaha is raw and done nothing, but then again Moyes was hesitant to play Barkley last year. Young, Valencia and Nani may not be good enough, but can do a job for a season.

Upfront they have lots of quality with RVP and Rooney. Welbeck and Hernandez are more than capable back up. Kagawa can do a job behind the striker too.

There future depends on who gets top four. If they get top 4 then they can continue to attract the big names and easily readdress the problems in the squad. Moyes however, is not good enough to challenge Mourinho or the City squad. Getting top four and winning the odd trophy is the best they could do with him.

If they don't get top 4 then once more it depends on who gets it. Best case scenario for them Everton grab top 4. They simply dont have the infrastructure, the clout or the money to solidify there place. Playing in the CL would mean they certainly do not get back there the next season. However, if Liverpool get top 4 then United's decline could become very serious in a hurry. Liverpool have the name, the clout in Europe, the talented young manager and the money to take their place in the top four. This could really lead to them falling into just a top 6 side.

Other big problems they have in the summer is that there two best players are probably going to be off if they don't make top 4. Rooney would have just 1 year left on his contract and they would be forced to sell. RVP looked unhappy from the start of the season and would likely demand a move at the end of the year. These two would bring in money, but United out of the top 4 and without Rooney/RVP (their most famous players) would really struggle to replace them.

Seriously? He's a good keeper, but not the best in the league.

You're right about the midfield though, and if Rooney and RVP really do agitate for a move at the end of the year ..... they will need to spend very, very big money to compete for the title again.
It's debatable about De Gea, but for me cannot think of anyone better and he is very young too.

They have no power over Rooney now. They simply must offer him a huge contract and hope he signs. If he doesn't with just one year left on his contract they are not going to get big money on him. RVP at 31 next year is not going to go for a lot of money either. If I was to rank the importance of getting int the top 4 for the clubs it would be

1. Liverpool
2. United


Then a big gap

3. Tottenham
4. Everton
 
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