United Thread 2014/15 (continued)

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Redmanc, why is it everytime you sign someone they automatically become world class?



Genuine question.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

I'm beggining to think this rag **** might actually be david gill.

 

[redmanc34]

Redmanc, why is it everytime you sign someone they automatically become ugly as fuck?



Genuine question.

It's a fair point, I can say that much. Never really considered it until now, but I do reckon you're onto something. Di Maria, Falcao etc.

 

[laserblue]

Redmanc, why is it everytime you sign someone they automatically become ugly as fuck?



Genuine question.

It's a fair point, I can say that much. Never really considered it until now, but I do reckon you're onto something. Di Maria, Falcao etc.

Rooney, Jones, Smalling, Fellaini...

 

[Bodicoteblue]

Yeah potentially it would make sense to tailor the rules for each country, but like I mentioned, English clubs having the best TV deal in Europe is basically a way around it. Higher revenues for all clubs, clubs like Bournemouth next season could end up with a higher revenue for the season than say Ajax, and surely with that amount of money Bournemouth are sorted for the next 3-4 seasons. But then it's all relative isn't it, as everyone else in the league gets the same so they're no better off. If it was to be diced out fairer then it would be better that the lower teams actually receive more in TV money, but that's never gonna happen

Well that's odd!

On page 247 you replied to Mac from Spain that the unfair distribution of the TV money in that country had no relevance to FFP.
Now you tell us that increased tv revenues is a way around the rules which I think was the point he was making.
With their tv deals the two Spanish Giants have enriched themselves at the expense of the other clubs.
So in effect Barca and Real Madrid have found a way around the rules by being huge and negotiating a disproportionate tv deal and thereby in effect have told the rest of the clubs in la liga to fight for the crumbs falling from the table ,and you said it had nothing to do with FFP. now you tell us it does.
The distribution of the TV money may be more equitable here but it patently isn't in Spain enabling two clubs to cement their place at the top, and ensuring perpetuation of the status quo.
Another example of the unfairness and inequality of a system designed to create a "level playing field"

I don't think so in Spain as it's always been like that with TV even before FFP, whereas I think the Premier League have cottoned onto the fact that there's only 2 clubs who could compete within their means in Europe if TV money stayed the same and that would probably be United and Arsenal. So they've managed to get this massive TV deal to help everyone else compete in Europe as it is somewhere where we are struggling as a league.

As I say I don't think it's relevant so much in Spain as that situation has been going on long before FFP. You also have to remember Real Madrid are essentially paid for by the Spanish taxpayer anyway, which says something I suppose about corruption over there

Which takes me back to my point.
Why is it fair to have a blanket set of rules applied to all clubs when , as you point out , there are shocking inequalities of opportunity and complete differences in their ability to compete , as has been said, because of geographical and/or population issues. Not to mention tax issues, or indeed who is more corrupt and for longer (Unless of course uefa didn't think that any of those details were very important) I'm fairly sure that the other clubs in la liga would think tv money distribution is relevant.
Yes in an ideal world , things would be fairer but FFP is not going to make that happen.
Just because the TV situation in Spain existed before the introduction of FFP doesn't mean that that arrangement has to continue after its introduction .
All it would take is for Platini to make up an arbitrary set of regulations to cover tv revenues - eg how much they should be ,and who should get what share, and how it should and shouldn't be distributed, and then force the tv companies to abide by them otherwise they wouldn't get to televise the CL!
I wonder why he doesn't do that!!!!!

 

[glyncity]

Redmanc , you claim to come from a area of Manchester which is 80% blue and you have many relatives who are blue , yet according to you neither the last minute league win or the 6 1 thrashing at the swamp hurt as much as the Dippers beating you , all i can say Redmanc is either your a delusional liar or the blues in your neighbourhood and the blues in your family really need to hang their heads in shame for not making your life hell for the last few years .
Obviously losing to a team 35 miles away whos supporters you rarely come across on a daily basis is a 1000 times worse than losing to your nearest neighbours , especially when supposedly 80% of the locality where you live and most of your relatives support the team youve lost to and will go out of their way to never let you forget it , you either have an incredibly thick skin , an almost pathalogical hatred of the scousers or you are delusional . maybe its all three

 

[Barcon]

Not sure if anyone else has bothered to ask but, where did that fee for Milner come from?
And the Mangala one whilst were at it.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

What ever became of that lad/tramp they signed for 7 million?

 

[stony]

Not sure if anyone else has bothered to ask but, where did that fee for Milner come from?
And the Mangala one whilst were at it.

I don't think people bothered because he's proved himself to be a delusional fuckwit, who picks and chooses what he wants to believe.
His opening post proved beyond any doubt that he is a liar and not to be trusted. So I just haven't bothered.

 

[stony]

What ever became of that lad/tramp they signed for 7 million?

Shh, we don't talk about the gpc's pension fund.