United Thread 2014/15

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blue b4 the moon said:
uwe rosler 28 said:
blue b4 the moon said:
From looking at those figures its almost heading towards shit or bust.

The Tick Tock phase has now passed and they're heading for the 'for who the bell tolls' period with a very badly balanced team, idiots in charge of the players, no transfer plan whatsoever and a big gamble in the January window where they will need to spunk a load more dosh on the midfield and defense when there's no value in the market.

Any rags had better buckle up. Going to be bumpy as fuck come the summer.

Unfortunately there's a bent load of old fuckers at the fa that will make sure that very soon they will be representing england again in the champs lge you just wait and see some of the worst ref's decisions they get in there favour!

They do seem to get quite a few less 'favours' these days (please God don't make me out to be speaking too soon) the bacon fear that the shitheads had has gone. It'll be all about the brown envelopes now if it starts again.

They are definitely refereed differently post Ferguson,it stands out a mile when you watch them.
 
Matty said:
Amazing how the same piece of information can be reported in two very different ways. United's recent announcement of their revenue/profits was greeted by the following headlines:-

MEN

Manchester United announce record £433.2m revenue

BBC

Manchester United reveal 84% profits fall


Just an indicator of editorial bias IMHO - MUEN will always put a gloss on things at the swamp.
 
Matty said:
Amazing how the same piece of information can be reported in two very different ways. United's recent announcement of their revenue/profits was greeted by the following headlines:-

MEN

Manchester United announce record £433.2m revenue

BBC

Manchester United reveal 84% profits fall

Profits down from £142 down to £28m or somewhere near that. Perhaps they could fake a robbery
and use WellBeck as the fall guy.
 
prestonibbo_mcfc said:
Matty said:
Amazing how the same piece of information can be reported in two very different ways. United's recent announcement of their revenue/profits was greeted by the following headlines:-

MEN

Manchester United announce record £433.2m revenue

BBC

Manchester United reveal 84% profits fall

Profits down from £142 down to £28m or somewhere near that. Perhaps they could fake a robbery
and use WellBeck as the fall guy.


So, does that mean they only have 28 mill of their "earned money" to spend in the next window? ;)
 
Pigeonho said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Pigeonho said:
Can't post the link from my tablet, but read last night a United fan died after being assaulted by a couple of City fans in town following a row over football. Nobody been caught yet according to the report, (which was in last nights MEN). A father of 4. Absolutely fucking shit, that.
RIP that man, and let's hope the shit heads who ran off after decking him get caught.
That. Over football. *shakes head*
Seems, on the face of it, to bear all the hallmarks of a 'one punch manslaughter'. A situation in which there are no winners, not least the family of the deceased and something folk should try and remember when tensions are escalating in a social environment. Many lives can be ruined in the blink of an eye, often caused by someone with little or no previous history of violence.

Absolutely awful way to die, especially over something that is, in spite of all the time it consumes in our lives, is just a game.

My heart goes out to his family. RIP.
The older I've become, the more I see the consequences of such things like this, things which seem nothing but can end up in absolute tragedy. As you say, no winners at all.

This all day long
 
The test for these clowns will be when they play the big boys.
I am personally expecting them to destroy Arrys boys this weekend quite comfortably.
If they don't get top 4 I will seriously piss my sides.
Any idea if our revenue will ever surpass these cunts?
 
stirlingblue said:
The really important number I have not seen mentioned anywhere (for 2013-2014 actuals and next year's forecast) is net profit as this is the true measure of long term viability for any business but particularly for a quoted company. EBITDA is a profitability performance indicator but crucially does not - as the name suggests - take any account of tax or depreciation and amortisation of player contracts which will be highly significant for 2013-2014 and of course given the "massive" signings of this summer - even more so for the current financial year. Apologies if this has been mentioned somewhere and I have missed it but all the press releases I have seen today seem to bury this highly important statistic. This fact should not surprise anyone.
An acid test for any publicly traded business in the long term is the performance of the company's share price. Interestingly the shares I believe are down about 13% since July and I see are down a further 3% today based on their press release. Another 2% drop would take the share price to a 20 month low. The market is getting nervous - tick tock.
Apologies, Just re-read one of the press releases and key net profit figure is given but is down 84% to £24 million. Should get extremely interesting if they don't make chumps league this year then with the additional amortisation of their expensive acquisitions and their projected decrease in revenue.

£24m is about their standard profit, they booked a £155m tax credit last year. Next year accounts, even with the additional commerical revenues, will likely make horrible reading. Fail to not qualify outright for CL this season will make this summers investment look ill thought out shaking investor convidence further, if they look like they will fail to qualify at all as the season progresses there won't be anything other than sell recommendations on the street. They need this 3rd to be looking obtainable, if they are languishing in the table come christmas things are going to get very uncomfortable.

Over to the turtle, don't let us down.
 
metalblue said:
stirlingblue said:
The really important number I have not seen mentioned anywhere (for 2013-2014 actuals and next year's forecast) is net profit as this is the true measure of long term viability for any business but particularly for a quoted company. EBITDA is a profitability performance indicator but crucially does not - as the name suggests - take any account of tax or depreciation and amortisation of player contracts which will be highly significant for 2013-2014 and of course given the "massive" signings of this summer - even more so for the current financial year. Apologies if this has been mentioned somewhere and I have missed it but all the press releases I have seen today seem to bury this highly important statistic. This fact should not surprise anyone.
An acid test for any publicly traded business in the long term is the performance of the company's share price. Interestingly the shares I believe are down about 13% since July and I see are down a further 3% today based on their press release. Another 2% drop would take the share price to a 20 month low. The market is getting nervous - tick tock.
Apologies, Just re-read one of the press releases and key net profit figure is given but is down 84% to £24 million. Should get extremely interesting if they don't make chumps league this year then with the additional amortisation of their expensive acquisitions and their projected decrease in revenue.

£24m is about their standard profit, they booked a £155m tax credit last year. Next year accounts, even with the additional commerical revenues, will likely make horrible reading. Fail to not qualify outright for CL this season will make this summers investment look ill thought out shaking investor convidence further, if they look like they will fail to qualify at all as the season progresses there won't be anything other than sell recommendations on the street. They need this 3rd to be looking obtainable, if they are languishing in the table come christmas things are going to get very uncomfortable.

Over to the turtle, don't let us down.

Maybe another Leeds/Portsmouth in the making ;-)
 
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