United Thread 2014/15

[IH8MUFC]

So that's wellbeck 5 falcao 1.

 

[Bill]

So that's wellbeck 5 falcao 1.

i always thought welbeck would get goals once he starts regular but falcao is different class. had he been fit and with us he'd be in double figures now. injury and platatini put paid to that.

 

[M18CTID]

Therein lies the problem. Be careful what you wish for with the raggy rag rags. While the Glazers own them, it great entertainment, but God forbid someone with some real dosh steps in, that wont be funny. Unless of course its a consortium fronted by Ray Ranson...

To be honest there is no doubt that the Glazers will ultimately sell out and some real money men will bail them out, its as sure as night follows day any anyone who believes otherwise is deluding themselves. The best senario for us is that they plod along just missing out on the top 4 and the Glazers sit tight. This will allow us to consolidate and remain competitive when it finally happens.

Whilst they "rob Peter to pay Paul" with the problems they have in their American businesses I cannot see them selling out for a very long time.
Long may it continue.

Not only that, it would probably cost something in the region of 1.5 to 2 billion to prise the club away from the Glazers. As much of a cash cow as United is I don't think there would be too many people willing to fork out that amount of money. It's also worth noting that any prospective buyer would also have to take on the £360 million or so of debt as well.

Personally, while I believe the Glazers will sell up eventually I don't think that it will happen in the immediate future unless an offer comes in that is too good to turn down.

Also, a new buyer doesn't necessarily mean that all their problems will go away - they could even end up with worse owners than the Glazers. After all, the Glazers owe United fans nothing after years of abuse and probably won't be arsed who they sell to as long as they get their cash. Of course, the most hilarious scenario is if someone comes in and purchases United in the same way the Glazers did, and loading a mountain of new debt onto the club in the process meaning they have to go through the rigmarole of the last 10 years all over again!

 

[Bill]

To be honest there is no doubt that the Glazers will ultimately sell out and some real money men will bail them out, its as sure as night follows day any anyone who believes otherwise is deluding themselves. The best senario for us is that they plod along just missing out on the top 4 and the Glazers sit tight. This will allow us to consolidate and remain competitive when it finally happens.

Whilst they "rob Peter to pay Paul" with the problems they have in their American businesses I cannot see them selling out for a very long time.
Long may it continue.

Not only that, it would probably cost something in the region of 1.5 to 2 billion to prise the club away from the Glazers. As much of a cash cow as United is I don't think there would be too many people willing to fork out that amount of money. It's also worth noting that any prospective buyer would also have to take on the £360 million or so of debt as well.

Personally, while I believe the Glazers will sell up eventually I don't think that it will happen in the immediate future unless an offer comes in that is too good to turn down.

Also, a new buyer doesn't necessarily mean that all their problems will go away - they could even end up with worse owners than the Glazers. After all, the Glazers owe United fans nothing after years of abuse and probably won't be arsed who they sell to as long as they get their cash. Of course, the most hilarious scenario is if someone comes in and purchases United in the same way the Glazers did, and loading a mountain of new debt onto the club in the process meaning they have to go through the rigmarole of the last 10 years all over again!

no chance of that. anyone buying them now would be mega rich and would not care about any losses, they would be buying it for prestige. they really would become a plaything as at 2 billion the new owners wouldn't make a cent on their outlay.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

He's been there for 11 weeks or so at £350,000 p/w so £3.5-3.9m or so. They've pretty much paid over £3.5m (not including medical costs) per goal.

Edit: around £1.7m for the loan fee as well if you were to break it down proportionally.

I had it at 12 weeks @£380,000.........but yours will do fine

Cheers :)

Could easily call it a minimum cost of £5.2m including fee and wages (per goal as well) without any fear of being proven wrong. Make sure you direct the rat in the direction of di Maria's comments about the scum being far from first choice and Bale's agent's comments about turning down more money at the scum while you're at it.

He wouldn't have any of it,adamant that Monaco are paying his wages.....the only thing that really annoyed me about his comments was that a spuds fan started laughing at him before I did.

 

[Bill]

I had it at 12 weeks @£380,000.........but yours will do fine

Cheers :)

Could easily call it a minimum cost of £5.2m including fee and wages (per goal as well) without any fear of being proven wrong. Make sure you direct the rat in the direction of di Maria's comments about the scum being far from first choice and Bale's agent's comments about turning down more money at the scum while you're at it.

He wouldn't have any of it,adamant that Monaco are paying his wages.....the only thing that really annoyed me about his comments was that a spuds fan started laughing at him before I did.

a spurs fan you say?

my how the mighty have fallen.

 

[Plays By Sense Of Smell]

Surprised they missed that byline targets have been surpassed by 40%.

 

[cibaman]

To be honest there is no doubt that the Glazers will ultimately sell out and some real money men will bail them out, its as sure as night follows day any anyone who believes otherwise is deluding themselves. The best senario for us is that they plod along just missing out on the top 4 and the Glazers sit tight. This will allow us to consolidate and remain competitive when it finally happens.

Whilst they "rob Peter to pay Paul" with the problems they have in their American businesses I cannot see them selling out for a very long time.
Long may it continue.

Not only that, it would probably cost something in the region of 1.5 to 2 billion to prise the club away from the Glazers. As much of a cash cow as United is I don't think there would be too many people willing to fork out that amount of money. It's also worth noting that any prospective buyer would also have to take on the £360 million or so of debt as well.

Personally, while I believe the Glazers will sell up eventually I don't think that it will happen in the immediate future unless an offer comes in that is too good to turn down.

Also, a new buyer doesn't necessarily mean that all their problems will go away - they could even end up with worse owners than the Glazers. After all, the Glazers owe United fans nothing after years of abuse and probably won't be arsed who they sell to as long as they get their cash. Of course, the most hilarious scenario is if someone comes in and purchases United in the same way the Glazers did, and loading a mountain of new debt onto the club in the process meaning they have to go through the rigmarole of the last 10 years all over again!

They wouldnt take on the debt "as well", it would be factored into the price, as would any other liability that a new owner takes on.

Clearly the Glazers are only in it for the money. In order to get a return on their investment they have to sell or start taking dividends out of the club. I would quite like to see the reaction if they started paying themselves a dividend.

There must be a dwindling number of cash investors who could pay £1-2b without needing a return on their investment. The likelihood is that there will always be some financing costs that will have first call on their cashflow.

 

[waspish]

Glazer not spent 1 cent of there own money Buying the filth using them as the cash cow then when all the debt has been payed off they sell for 2 billion! You have to admire them for that!

 

[aguero93:20]

Whilst they "rob Peter to pay Paul" with the problems they have in their American businesses I cannot see them selling out for a very long time.
Long may it continue.

Not only that, it would probably cost something in the region of 1.5 to 2 billion to prise the club away from the Glazers. As much of a cash cow as United is I don't think there would be too many people willing to fork out that amount of money. It's also worth noting that any prospective buyer would also have to take on the £360 million or so of debt as well.

Personally, while I believe the Glazers will sell up eventually I don't think that it will happen in the immediate future unless an offer comes in that is too good to turn down.

Also, a new buyer doesn't necessarily mean that all their problems will go away - they could even end up with worse owners than the Glazers. After all, the Glazers owe United fans nothing after years of abuse and probably won't be arsed who they sell to as long as they get their cash. Of course, the most hilarious scenario is if someone comes in and purchases United in the same way the Glazers did, and loading a mountain of new debt onto the club in the process meaning they have to go through the rigmarole of the last 10 years all over again!

They wouldnt take on the debt "as well", it would be factored into the price, as would any other liability that a new owner takes on.

Clearly the Glazers are only in it for the money. In order to get a return on their investment they have to sell or start taking dividends out of the club. I would quite like to see the reaction if they started paying themselves a dividend.

There must be a dwindling number of cash investors who could pay £1-2b without needing a return on their investment. The likelihood is that there will always be some financing costs that will have first call on their cashflow.

There's about 300 individuals with a big enough net worth to buy the club without major financing, about 120 have the liquidity to buy it outright without any financing or need for return on investment.