United Thread 2014/15

[maccadon]

I think you chaps need to start looking over your shoulders rather than talking 3/4/5:6 etc. Last nights result (note: result, not performance) was the best since SAF left. Definite feel of whole greater than sum of parts, another skill of the great managers, as is winning when you shouldn't. Has your manager displayed this skill yet? Yes I am a 50 year "rag".

So having two shots on target is great tactics ?

I always thought the purpose of football was to score goals.I really hope our manager doesn't adopt this tactic as am rather partial to trophies now.

 

[manimanc]

I think you chaps need to start looking over your shoulders rather than talking 3/4/5:6 etc. Last nights result (note: result, not performance) was the best since SAF left. Definite feel of whole greater than sum of parts, another skill of the great managers, as is winning when you shouldn't. Has your manager displayed this skill yet? Yes I am a 50 year "rag".

Fucking hell, one flukey result and they crawl out of the woodwork like fucking cockroaches.

The most expensively assembled squad of players in history, with the highest earning footballers in the country and a tactical genius in charge.
You should be fucking walking the league, not floundering around lioke Luke Shaw in a swimming pool.
Your club is a fucking embarrassment to the Premier League.o

The only reason we'll be looking over our shoulders is to laugh at you c**ts.

Ha ha great response stony man...

 

[1.618034]

Winning whilst playing " dogshit" is one of the greatest managerial abilities of all. That was the main question I asked in my original post. Can your manager do this, consistently? (I am not saying he can't, I am just stimulating debate). We have all seen the greatest example of this ability do it again, and again, and again, even if we do choose to portray him as some sort of slavering alcoholic. Last night had all the hallmarks of a classic Ferguson backs to the wall performance. Not mattering too much as to personnel or systems (which it wouldn't have to given the make up of the back five). Probably it comes down to tactics and the spirit within the team. We should have lost but I we didn't. I saw that many times under Ferguson. Are we on the way back? I would like to think so, you wouldn't.

Great teams can win when playing badly, but this doesn't mean that when any team wins against the run of play then they are, therefore being managed well.

We keep outplaying but losing to Sunderland, but that doesn't mean that Sunderland are a great team. Does it?

In fact you are to Arsenal what Sunderland are to us... A bogey team. And NOTHING from that result yesterday suggests anything but that.

You're bound to see the positives in the result, but you've haven't had one GOOD performance yet this season. Have you?


As for Pellegrini then yes he has shown that he can win a title by winning games when playing below par... I've just looked at last season's fixtures and there are a few examples.

At the moment we're not playing at anywhere near our level, but we won on Saturday, against a good team...

When van Gaal's won the league and then you win whilst playing badly then get back to us.

 

[Deleted member 58678]

Winning whilst playing " dogshit" is one of the greatest managerial abilities of all. That was the main question I asked in my original post. Can your manager do this, consistently? (I am not saying he can't, I am just stimulating debate). We have all seen the greatest example of this ability do it again, and again, and again, even if we do choose to portray him as some sort of slavering alcoholic. Last night had all the hallmarks of a classic Ferguson backs to the wall performance. Not mattering too much as to personnel or systems (which it wouldn't have to given the make up of the back five). Probably it comes down to tactics and the spirit within the team. We should have lost but I we didn't. I saw that many times under Ferguson. Are we on the way back? I would like to think so, you wouldn't.

At the moment I'm looking at United and im not seeing a manager doing a good job with the most expensive team of all time, I'm seeing a brilliant goalkeeper saving shot after shot after shot after shot after some absolutely abysmal defending from front to back every week. Everton Chelsea City Arsenal...could all have been miles worse for United if it weren't for De Gae. That's not the manager of the team showing certain qualities, that's just De Gae.

City have not really played well at all this season yet we're on 24 points! Maybe Pellegrini is showing that he can do exactly that.

You're two points away from being in the bottom half!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Winning whilst playing " dogshit" is one of the greatest managerial abilities of all. That was the main question I asked in my original post. Can your manager do this, consistently? (I am not saying he can't, I am just stimulating debate). We have all seen the greatest example of this ability do it again, and again, and again, even if we do choose to portray him as some sort of slavering alcoholic. Last night had all the hallmarks of a classic Ferguson backs to the wall performance. Not mattering too much as to personnel or systems (which it wouldn't have to given the make up of the back five). Probably it comes down to tactics and the spirit within the team. We should have lost but I we didn't. I saw that many times under Ferguson. Are we on the way back? I would like to think so, you wouldn't.

At the moment I'm looking at United and im not seeing a manager doing a good job with the most expensive team of all time, I'm seeing a brilliant goalkeeper saving shot after shot after shot after shot after some absolutely abysmal defending from front to back every week. Everton Chelsea City Arsenal...could all have been miles worse for United if it weren't for De Gae. That's not the manager of the team showing certain qualities, that's just De Gae.

City have not really played well at all this season yet we're on 24 points! Maybe Pellegrini is showing that he can do exactly that.

You're two points away from being in the bottom half!

For me, De Gea is without a doubt, the best keeper in the league.

 

[aguero93:20]

 

[1.618034]

Winning whilst playing " dogshit" is one of the greatest managerial abilities of all. That was the main question I asked in my original post. Can your manager do this, consistently? (I am not saying he can't, I am just stimulating debate). We have all seen the greatest example of this ability do it again, and again, and again, even if we do choose to portray him as some sort of slavering alcoholic. Last night had all the hallmarks of a classic Ferguson backs to the wall performance. Not mattering too much as to personnel or systems (which it wouldn't have to given the make up of the back five). Probably it comes down to tactics and the spirit within the team. We should have lost but I we didn't. I saw that many times under Ferguson. Are we on the way back? I would like to think so, you wouldn't.

At the moment I'm looking at United and im not seeing a manager doing a good job with the most expensive team of all time, I'm seeing a brilliant goalkeeper saving shot after shot after shot after shot after some absolutely abysmal defending from front to back every week. Everton Chelsea City Arsenal...could all have been miles worse for United if it weren't for De Gae. That's not the manager of the team showing certain qualities, that's just De Gae.

City have not really played well at all this season yet we're on 24 points! Maybe Pellegrini is showing that he can do exactly that.

You're two points away from being in the bottom half!

For me, De Gea is without a doubt, the busiest keeper in the league.

Courtois is a better keeper IMHO.

 

[mosssideblue]

I think you chaps need to start looking over your shoulders rather than talking 3/4/5:6 etc. Last nights result (note: result, not performance) was the best since SAF left. Definite feel of whole greater than sum of parts, another skill of the great managers, as is winning when you shouldn't. Has your manager displayed this skill yet? Yes I am a 50 year "rag".

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Well CC I can see why your feeling rather giddy at getting some points on the board as they have been few and far between of late.

To think that your result last night was because of the way you played is folly, even most rag fans I work with admitted the Arse should have been at least two up before half time. It took an own goal for you to score the opener and I'm afraid if that hadn't gone in, you wouldn't have scored at all.

Your second was only as a result of the Arse chasing the game. Had you been facing a decent striker yesterday, you would not be on here pedling that all is well in Ragland.

Carry on believing your back on track and then come back in May and let us know what it feels like to be without CL football for a second successive season.

If there is one thing that impressed us blues yesterday, it was the tactical turtle lifting his skirt and revealing his philosophy which is training the side to get two goals from one shot on target - master stroke

Now trot over to the Shed and put the fear of god up the Chavs that manure will be chasing them all the way to the title.

50 years + a rag, you should no better

 

[Bill]

Have we ever had a rag come on here that talked any sense and not the usual deluded brainwashed claptrap they trot out,this one following the same well worn path?

Nah

All deluded brainwashed buffoons , reality is unknown to them , small minded weak people attached to a media loved ideal based on the idiotic premise they are a major force in football.
The media reinforce that they are a popular club when the truth is that the debt ridden american owned are for the Glaziers simply a cash cow .
Most rags never go but support them as perceived winners that makes them superior to anyone else,
again down to the media. The old world is changing but not fast enough for me, I have hated the bastards for over
45 Years and rejoice in anything detrimental to them.

not true.

we've had a few decent rags over the years.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

There's thousands of rags who read this thread over the course of a week. Surely there's a couple amongst them who have got the brains and the bottle to start posting on here, to elevate the overall standard of contributions from united supporters.

I know many blues would welcome some decent debate with united fans who can construct a cogent argument. This thread would be better for a few united fans who can hold their own.

There's got to be at least a few of them among the 659 million who can keep up with the likes of me, surely?

It's almost like they're too frightened and intimidated to post on here.

Come on lurking rags, prove you're not all stupid and spineless, I dare you.