United Thread 2015/16

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There's no doubt that United have strengthened.

I, like most people, have very little information on Darmian, can't say I've ever heard of him, however you don't get 13 caps for Italy without being a decent enough defender. Those on Rag Café describing him as a "quality" signing are no doubt being pretty disingenuous as I suspect 95% of them have never seen him play a single game.

Depay looks to be an exciting player, however as with Darmian, I suspect many haven't really seen too much of him. United fans should be more than a little concerned that Van Gaal seems intent on trying him out as a striker when he's natural position is attacking from the midfield, and out wide. They'll not see the best of him up top.

Schneiderlin is a very good signing, ticks a lot of boxes for United, but he's not world class. He'll certainly strengthen their midfield though.

Schweinsteiger has a huge reputation, and again he'll be a useful addition. However United fans seem to think they'll be getting Schweinsteiger at his best. No, they won't. He'll be 31 when the season starts and a quick look at his appearances indicates he's not managed to play 30 league games (in a 38 game season, like ours) for Bayern since the 2010-2011 season. In fact out of the 152 league games Bayern have played the last 4 seasons Schweinsteiger has taken part in just 93, that's approx. 60% of games. If that percentage holds true this season then he'll play 22/23 games out of 38! For the wages they'll be paying him (rumoured to be £275k a week) that's a lot of money to pay a guy for 3 seasons that might only reach 70 league appearances, in total, by the time his contract expires!

The additions don't address many of United's squad gaps. Van Persie, Falcao, and likely Hernandez aren't options, so Rooney, Wilson, and Depay out of position are their strikers, in a team that didn't score enough last season. Their keeper may well be leaving, if not this summer then certainly by next summer. Their centre halves are, to a man, underwhelming. Rojo, Smalling, Jones, Blackett, Evans, McNair, none of them are a truly great centre half. United's squad has many holes, so for their fans to claim it's on a par with Chelsea's, or ours, and capable in its current state of mounting a title challenge, is seriously deluded.
 
It's a slow day/night at the Daily United Pravda.

The main headline/article on their online Sports Page.

Oh look, it's by our mate, Ian Ladyman.

"I've ordered two KFC Family Buckets online. Will that do you Luke?"

"I wouldn't mind a Zinger Burger as well."

 
Matty said:
There's no doubt that United have strengthened.

I, like most people, have very little information on Darmian, can't say I've ever heard of him, however you don't get 13 caps for Italy without being a decent enough defender. Those on Rag Café describing him as a "quality" signing are no doubt being pretty disingenuous as I suspect 95% of them have never seen him play a single game.

Depay looks to be an exciting player, however as with Darmian, I suspect many haven't really seen too much of him. United fans should be more than a little concerned that Van Gaal seems intent on trying him out as a striker when he's natural position is attacking from the midfield, and out wide. They'll not see the best of him up top.

Schneiderlin is a very good signing, ticks a lot of boxes for United, but he's not world class. He'll certainly strengthen their midfield though.

Schweinsteiger has a huge reputation, and again he'll be a useful addition. However United fans seem to think they'll be getting Schweinsteiger at his best. No, they won't. He'll be 31 when the season starts and a quick look at his appearances indicates he's not managed to play 30 league games (in a 38 game season, like ours) for Bayern since the 2010-2011 season. In fact out of the 152 league games Bayern have played the last 4 seasons Schweinsteiger has taken part in just 93, that's approx. 60% of games. If that percentage holds true this season then he'll play 22/23 games out of 38! For the wages they'll be paying him (rumoured to be £275k a week) that's a lot of money to pay a guy for 3 seasons that might only reach 70 league appearances, in total, by the time his contract expires!

The additions don't address many of United's squad gaps. Van Persie, Falcao, and likely Hernandez aren't options, so Rooney, Wilson, and Depay out of position are their strikers, in a team that didn't score enough last season. Their keeper may well be leaving, if not this summer then certainly by next summer. Their centre halves are, to a man, underwhelming. Rojo, Smalling, Jones, Blackett, Evans, McNair, none of them are a truly great centre half. United's squad has many holes, so for their fans to claim it's on a par with Chelsea's, or ours, and capable in its current state of mounting a title challenge, is seriously deluded.
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Or maybe Italy don't have many players to chose from in that position!

Darmian and Depay are unknown quantities for the PL – the Rags bought them so they're superb... if we'd bought them can you imagine the tabloid response?
Schneiderlin – only really Liverpool seriously interested other than the Rags, which speaks for itself – he's good but not quite Carling!
Schweinsteiger is undoubted quality - but does have a doubtful injury record.

On top of this I read earlier their reserve team/U21's coach admitting their is an exodus of young talent leaving the Swamp – Tactical Turtle is going to leave the rags in fucking awful state 2-3yrs down the line, there may be an initial improvement but it'll be a plaster on a gaping wound... I fucking love it!
 
Matty said:
United's squad has many holes, so for their fans to claim it's on a par with Chelsea's, or ours, and capable in its current state of mounting a title challenge, is seriously deluded.
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Haven't seen United fans claiming their squad is on a par with ours. The deluded fuckwits claim it's much better.
 
Matty said:
There's no doubt that United have strengthened.

I, like most people, have very little information on Darmian, can't say I've ever heard of him, however you don't get 13 caps for Italy without being a decent enough defender. Those on Rag Café describing him as a "quality" signing are no doubt being pretty disingenuous as I suspect 95% of them have never seen him play a single game.

Depay looks to be an exciting player, however as with Darmian, I suspect many haven't really seen too much of him. United fans should be more than a little concerned that Van Gaal seems intent on trying him out as a striker when he's natural position is attacking from the midfield, and out wide. They'll not see the best of him up top.

Schneiderlin is a very good signing, ticks a lot of boxes for United, but he's not world class. He'll certainly strengthen their midfield though.

Schweinsteiger has a huge reputation, and again he'll be a useful addition. However United fans seem to think they'll be getting Schweinsteiger at his best. No, they won't. He'll be 31 when the season starts and a quick look at his appearances indicates he's not managed to play 30 league games (in a 38 game season, like ours) for Bayern since the 2010-2011 season. In fact out of the 152 league games Bayern have played the last 4 seasons Schweinsteiger has taken part in just 93, that's approx. 60% of games. If that percentage holds true this season then he'll play 22/23 games out of 38! For the wages they'll be paying him (rumoured to be £275k a week) that's a lot of money to pay a guy for 3 seasons that might only reach 70 league appearances, in total, by the time his contract expires!

The additions don't address many of United's squad gaps. Van Persie, Falcao, and likely Hernandez aren't options, so Rooney, Wilson, and Depay out of position are their strikers, in a team that didn't score enough last season. Their keeper may well be leaving, if not this summer then certainly by next summer. Their centre halves are, to a man, underwhelming. Rojo, Smalling, Jones, Blackett, Evans, McNair, none of them are a truly great centre half. United's squad has many holes, so for their fans to claim it's on a par with Chelsea's, or ours, and capable in its current state of mounting a title challenge, is seriously deluded.
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Good post, but one glaring error - Bundesliga teams only play 34 games a season! 93 out of a possible 136 is around 68%, or 26 games a PL season. Still a reasonable amount of games, so let's hope his age means more injuries.

I can't see De Gea leaving....thought it was nailed on at the start of the summer. Fucking annoying, since he single-handedly papered over the cracks last season, but fair play to them for actually sticking two fingers up to Real. Even though he'll now be off for free next season, someone needed to do it sooner or later.

I think the deluded posters on redcafe aiming for title are just as deluded as some of those on here who think they'll flop massively. They've made a bunch of good signings and have a fairly decent squad, though certainly lacking in certain areas. I predict a solid, but trophyless season. 3rd place, 10 points behind the championship, but 10 points ahead of 4th.
 
ftg said:
I think the deluded posters on redcafe aiming for title are just as deluded as some of those on here who think they'll flop massively. They've made a bunch of good signings and have a fairly decent squad, though certainly lacking in certain areas. I predict a solid, but trophyless season. 3rd place, 10 points behind the championship, but 10 points ahead of 4th.
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I'd pretty much agree with that, although I think they might get a little closer to first in terms of points, but still fall a little short.
 
Do we want them to qualify for the CL group stages and have that burden on them for the first 4 months of the season (that will truly f' them up) or would we swap that for 72 hours of non stop laughing as they fall at the first hurdle ?
 
warspite said:
Beckenbauer, Schweinsteiger should have gone for a last pay day in the MLS that's his level now, Ouch!
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That's gotta hurt, but i think the RAGS are gonna be glad schweinsteiger's joined them i've always rated him highly , he is a class act. I mean ofcourse he's joined the rags but come on, he was the MOTM in the WC final. Just got injured last season and pep's tactics are awful for him and thiago suits it better along with alonso. he'll be top for them
 
Impeccable One said:
Do we want them to qualify for the CL group stages and have that burden on them for the first 4 months of the season (that will truly f' them up) or would we swap that for 72 hours of non stop laughing as they fall at the first hurdle ?
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If they lose then they'll have the distraction of the EL on Thursdays - I think.
The good news is that they will probably qualify from their group thus getting additional games; the bad news is that their perceived global fan base will be good for the competition and the draws and allocation of match day officials will reflect this.
 
Impeccable One said:
Do we want them to qualify for the CL group stages and have that burden on them for the first 4 months of the season (that will truly f' them up) or would we swap that for 72 hours of non stop laughing as they fall at the first hurdle ?
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Theres some good teams left in the 10 teams utd can get wouldn't back them against fenerbace with only a small amount of competitive game time played
 
Anahad94 said:
That's gotta hurt, but i think the RAGS are gonna be glad schweinsteiger's joined them i've always rated him highly , he is a class act. I mean ofcourse he's joined the rags but come on, he was the MOTM in the WC final. Just got injured last season and pep's tactics are awful for him and thiago suits it better along with alonso. he'll be top for them
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In a far more competitive League, with fewer fouls, at a much faster pace, alongside Phil Jones?

I think I'll reserve judgement until they've played Stoke away in winter thanks you very much.
 
Impeccable One said:
Do we want them to qualify for the CL group stages and have that burden on them for the first 4 months of the season (that will truly f' them up) or would we swap that for 72 hours of non stop laughing as they fall at the first hurdle ?
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I want them to fail miserably because the scummy bastards will still have the burden of Europa League matches and Thursday / Sunday games.

However, I can't see UEFA allowing that to happen.
 
mrtwiceaseason said:
Theres some good teams left in the 10 teams utd can get wouldn't back them against fenerbace with only a small amount of competitive game time played
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It'd be priceless if they drew Fernerbahce and Van Persie scored a hat trick against them and knocked them out.
 
Hope they get barca in the group stage so they know whst it's like to play against that team at the moment! Imagine what them 3 up top would do to them! Hope they finish 3rd in champs lge group and then are in europa league! As for there squad it's not been strengthened that much! It looks like they've lost van persie, di maria, falco 2 definitely they've brought in a right back that no one has heard off schnerderlin was playing league 1 football a few yr back and really struggled the only time I saw him play at the top level for france v brazil. The german pig is a gamble that could pay off but it's 50/50 and depay again is a gamble because he's never experienced this league and comes from a very poor dutch league! Also can't get in to a very poor dutch team at the moment! Also does the turtle really no what formation he wants to play? His squad seems so lob sided! 3 at the back again? Bog brush head up front with shrek? Still time to go yet but they both look at bit clueless at the moment turtle and woodward!
 
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