United thread 2018/19

[Stoned Rose]

With City running the gaff and the re-emergence of the dippers as a genuine trophy threat it must be horrendous being a rag at the moment.

Mwahahaha.

 

[jrb]

Come on everyone, spare a thought for their 657million fans around the World.

18 points behind us. 19 points behind the Scousers. No hope of the top 4. Out of the League Cup. Going out of the CL after drawing PSG. With only a slim chance of winning the FA Cup.

I honestly think we should over look 34 years of pissing taking by them, the 34 year banner, and send them our best wishes and good luck for the rest of the season during this festive period.

 

[mat]

Mbappe/Neymar v The Face/Smallthing

No contest.

 

[TonyM]

As mentioned almost 2 years ago, if United want to get into top 4 consistently (last year’s 2nd was an anomaly on a par with Leicester winning the league), they need to get in a complete set of cohesive footballing staff, work out a complete club framework, then start dismantling and replacing the current mess from top to bottom, to apply that framework.

City took 3 years to achieve that - takeover to top 4. And haven’t been out of top 4 in the next 7 years. (Still brings a smile writing that sort of thing!)

I can’t see United achieving anywhere near that, without wholeheartedly copying the City off-field football philosophy completely. (And being realistic in short term aspirations, as the pain of change occurs).

If the past 5 years are anything to go by, it’ll just be more papering over the cracks to achieve minimal short termist revenue, rather than root and branch long term club planning.

As when United benefitted from the original premier league being setup, (and hadn’t priorly sacked Ferguson), City benefitted from the timing of the takeover, just when TV money really started shooting up.

Now with the money washing around ( but probably plateau’d) and in some cases, wisely invested in things other than players eg infrastructure (Arsenal, Tottenham and the other recent smaller new stadia for many clubs), then uniteds position seems like it’s teetering on the brink of a spectacular fall.

Money sucked out of club, investment in anything but (transient) players minimal, no observable coherent plan other than increasing revenue, clinging to the Ferguson past, reacting rather than taking initiative (ie fire-fighting).

It’s been really obvious for the past 5 years, but digging deeper, some of the issues were begun to be seen in their 2012/2013 title winning season, or they were to me, at least. The arrival of woowar, the wholesale clearing out of the backroom staff, the naive belief that the post-Busby effect wouldn’t happen this time around, the promotion of mediocre academy youth (hoping for more of the anomalous ‘class of 92’), the continuing transition of a club into a complete revenue whore (started by champagne Louis).

So many things , taken in isolation, would be fine, but combined .... it’s more an indication that there’s very very few well run clubs (relative success - eg Bournemouth, as well as the current top 5)

Hopefully their fall continues at a nice slow pace. And meanwhile no one else falters too much. We don't want the FA getting too scared and changing everything to suit those falling.

 

[hertsblue]

Yes he was a vile arrogant bullying despot when he was the manager, who bad mouthed and belittled us every chance he got. Shouldn't be forgotten.

Who chewed gum throughout the minutes silence for the Derby and the 50th anniversary game (where we were impeccable)- real classy, who then rushed off after the game and not doing any interviews with the joke that he was off to scout a player, who bought his "Sir" title through donations, who bullied officials and half of their title wins are tainted for me with the decisions they got from Riley and the rest. Yep never forget how classless that club and its staff are

 

[kaz7]

I think you are all mean

They are in transition

Rebuilding

Maureen says the team are not built in his image

Give them a break...but cheer if he relegates them

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Who chewed gum throughout the minutes silence for the Derby and the 50th anniversary game (where we were impeccable)- real classy, who then rushed off after the game and not doing any interviews with the joke that he was off to scout a player, who bought his "Sir" title through donations, who bullied officials and half of their title wins are tainted for me with the decisions they got from Riley and the rest. Yep never forget how classless that club and its staff are

I had my ice cream out of the freezer last year with my jelly setting in the fridge but I’m glad the fucker survived so he has to sit and watch this shit week in week out.

 

[Daz_Blue]

Mourinho survives rag fans attack .....blames Woodward

 

[Nascent Blues]

It's interesting that over on ragcafe a significant number want peg gone and are promoting either Conte or Zidane as a possible successor. Think about that for a moment: two managers whose styles of play could be said to be the antithesis of each other.

There is the issue made manifest: no real philosophy as a club; no real thought as to what each manager would bring and no real thought to what they would leave, just pin the tale on the donkey of a manager that's done a good job in the past.

Long may it continue.

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

I think you are all mean

They are in transition

Rebuilding

Maureen says the team are not built in his image

Give them a break...but cheer if he relegates them

Exactly. And top four by Christmas don't forget.

Looks good to me. Just need to learn to control and pass the ball perhaps, and defend (a fundamental flaw, I'll admit for a team whose main tactic is park the bus).

But apart from that, jobs a good un.