United Thread - 2022/23

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Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
Extraordinary thing about Ferdinand. He's managed to make everyone forget — he might even have forgotten it himself — that he's got nothing whatsoever to do with the city of Manchester (nor even Greater Manchester, since we know that Man U are not in the city). No family ties, no experience of the place prior to being sold to United. He was a professional footballer fully seven years before joining the rags. And indeed he briefly played back in London at the end of his career (QPR). He appears to have no affection for West Ham or sense of ties to the club, despite the fact that that is where he learnt how to be a footballer at the highest level. You can understand the bias of people like Neville and Scholes, up to a point (both of whom, to be absolutely fair, are harder on the current iteration of United from time to time than Ferdinand ever is as a tv commentator). Even Beckham was a lifelong cockney red, apparently, despite growing up in Leyton. But from an organic point of view, what the fuck has Ferdinand got to do with Manchester United? Why has he become the rah-rah cheerleader for that club?
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To be a 'cockney rag' is normal for them. Sheeesh!
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
Well, I think there's a contradiction there. Even up to and including Joleon (are you sure he's an offical club ambassador, by the way? It's the first I've heard of it). To be fair, Joleon doesn't have anything like Ferdinand's prominence, and is fairly reticent about blowing City's trumpet other than when he's on with Nat Pike on the in-house commentary, which is an entirely different kettle of fish, of course.
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Didn't he take over the position of looking after the players out on loan?
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
Well, I think there's a contradiction there. Even up to and including Joleon (are you sure he's an offical club ambassador, by the way? It's the first I've heard of it). To be fair, Joleon doesn't have anything like Ferdinand's prominence, and is fairly reticent about blowing City's trumpet other than when he's on with Nat Pike on the in-house commentary, which is an entirely different kettle of fish, of course.
I'm in a weak position here, because I don't have a subscription to Sky, BT or anyone else (other than City+!), but personally I find it tiresome when former players fight the corner of their previous club. I just don't need it. Nedum is to me an exemplary commentator — you can clearly feel his great affection for the club, but he just doesn't let it cloud his judgment. Weird to me that he hasn't been offered a major contract. I suppose he wasn't a big enough star as a footballer. Which is weird, because what you did out on the pitch in no way establishes fitness for purpose as a commentator.
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Nedum was as "big a name" during his playing days as Stephen Warnock, IMHO.

Joleon is not a club ambassador, but he works for us in some capacity with the Academy lads.
 
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Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
Well, I think there's a contradiction there. Even up to and including Joleon (are you sure he's an offical club ambassador, by the way? It's the first I've heard of it). To be fair, Joleon doesn't have anything like Ferdinand's prominence, and is fairly reticent about blowing City's trumpet other than when he's on with Nat Pike on the in-house commentary, which is an entirely different kettle of fish, of course.
I'm in a weak position here, because I don't have a subscription to Sky, BT or anyone else (other than City+!), but personally I find it tiresome when former players fight the corner of their previous club. I just don't need it. Nedum is to me an exemplary commentator — you can clearly feel his great affection for the club, but he just doesn't let it cloud his judgment. Weird to me that he hasn't been offered a major contract. I suppose he wasn't a big enough star as a footballer. Which is weird, because what you did out on the pitch in no way establishes fitness for purpose as a commentator.
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And yet, sly have their lickspittle Andy Hinchcliffe as a commentator - but I suppose that’s because he’s always critical of City when they play.

Still annoys me when I think of that rant he gave after we beat Everton a couple of seasons back, when Raz didn’t tow the expected line of being offended by the tweet Bernardo had sent to Mendy.

It lasted for about 12 minutes and all he kept saying was “I’m offended” like he was trying to push the media narrative. No mention of the game or post match analysis.

I can’t stand the twat and it grinds my teeth whenever he’s commenting on City’s games.
 
The shoo-in of anything United in the media continues apace...

Cricket, you'd have hoped to get away from them, but no...
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Vienna_70 said:
Nedum was as "big a name" during his playing days as Stephen Warnock, IMHO.

Joleon is not a club ambassador, but he works for us in some capacity with the Academy lads.
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IIRC he was the loan manager but left that when he became the England U21 coach
He is a Puma Ambassador but I don't think he has any official role at the club any longer however he doesnt appear to do the odd "gig"
 
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