United Thread - 2022/23

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the blue panther said:
I agree except that you say the Fergie succession wasn't planned. It was, and Fergie was the man to annoint Moyes - his 'chosen one.' It may be that Fergie was all powerful and the big mistake was in letting Fergie make the decion himself instead of having a more independent, futuristic view of what was needed and how the game was progressing, but, they got the man they wanted, then they didn't stick by him near the end of his first season.
Of course, United don't sack managers, but they decided to start that at the wrong time. Had they been patient with Moyes for that one season, who knows what confidence and strength he could have drawn from that support when times were difficult. But, it wasn't forthcoming - and we all know why.
Scum.
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I can assure you it wasn't planned. It was all spur of the moment, as was his "planned retirement". Ferguson may have had Moyes in mind but he hadn't discussed that with Gill, Woodward or anyone else at the club, is my understanding.
 
Actually the best thing about this, is that, their big influence over the media machine, their "status" and barrage of wankers, sorry journalists all feed of the club, like crabs of a dead whale.

Even if Little Eric, somehow has good intentions, tactical approach, etc. The whole lot of them can't seem to go take a piss without being 1500 articles, tweets, etc about them.

They are ridiculously daft, but the first thing they would need to do is go full cold turkey on media.

Full on. They won't obviously, they're clearly idiotic beyond belief. At this rate, I'm not even bantering them, they will be in game week 4 with 0, or 1 point.

It's not even crazy to think that.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I wonder what they would be saying if, for example, the club was still a PLC, with little or no debt, but run the same way? Their problem would be the same as it is now, which is that the people running the club on a day-to-day basis are the problem.

But if they were a PLC and the share price had dropped as dramatically as it has, those people would have been given their marching orders a long time ago.

Of course the owners are a large part of the problem. They've not appointed the right people and simply don't have the right structures in place, as we notably have. They see things too much in commercial terms, so potentially good signings have been missed because "they won't sell shirts" and they've made bad signings (Ronaldo, Maguire, et al) because they will. They've extended the contracts of players they should have let go, because they think they'll get a better fee for them.

They split Gill & Ferguson up as they'd pulled a few fast ones to get what they wanted but they should've kept together for a while longer and planned the managerial succession better.

But they aren't coaching the players or taking training sessions. Avram Glazer isn't making the call on who picks who up at corners or picking the team. They didn't tell McTominay to hoof a simple pass into touch. So they're certainly not the whole problem.
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What did van Gaal say? Something like: They are not a football club, they are a financial enterprise.
 
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KS55 said:
What did an Gaal say? Something like: They are not a football club, they are a financial enterprise.
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He should go to a football club. Manchester United is a commercial club, not a football ... etc.
 
Sorry to lower the tone of the thread by actually being serious for a moment...

But - genuine question - how on earth do people think they can possibly get themselves out of this dire mess? (And I know the sensible answer is "who cares, let them rot in it"). They are well and truly fucked.

Eric Ten Weeks when asked about his substitutions at half time said he wanted to sub "all of them". :-) Still makes me laugh typing it.

But if they were to sell the entire squad - which lets face it is what's needed - no new player worth their salt will touch them with a 50ft barge pole. The only players they can attract are half-arsed mercenaries or b-team dross. This season they will struggle to get above mid table. At best.
 
waspish said:
Be interesting there finances if they don’t get champs league this season and if they think now them getting top four is remote will they spend a lot less?!
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IF???

Absolute nailed on certainty. You think there's any chance whatsoever that only 1 out of Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs will finish about them? I'd say there is ZERO chance of the rags getting top 4.
 
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