United Thread - 2023/24

[r.soleofsalford]

Rag manager on SKY now. They don’t half give him an easy ride

 

[MadchesterCity]

Got to disagree with you here. For whatever you think about what happened, by law someone is innocent until proven guilty in a court. We can argue about his guilt, but the fact remains within our system as it currently stands, those that prosecute crime don't believe they can prove his guilt. For what its worth, my view is that the system we have that effectively punishes his girlfriend if she proceeds with a complaint is wrong beyond words.

That being said as an employer, United have a duty of care to their contracted employee however distasteful that might be. Now if it was a situation like Lee Hughes I would agree with you.

What if he (or one of his colleagues after seeing this behaviour is deemed acceptable) were to rape a fellow employee at United, is it then OK to sack him? Where do United draw the line, for me that line is already drawn after he raped and using physical violence towards another human

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Got to disagree with you here. For whatever you think about what happened, by law someone is innocent until proven guilty in a court. We can argue about his guilt, but the fact remains within our system as it currently stands, those that prosecute crime don't believe they can prove his guilt. For what its worth, my view is that the system we have that effectively punishes his girlfriend if she proceeds with a complaint is wrong beyond words.

That being said as an employer, United have a duty of care to their contracted employee however distasteful that might be. Now if it was a situation like Lee Hughes I would agree with you.

You don’t need to be convicted to be sacked from your job.

If any of us did what Greenwood did, what percentage of us would still be in a job a week later, let alone 18 months?

 

[skillman]

What the fuck did they expect? Idiots.

https://x.com/centregoals/status/1692846760446840913?s=46&t=_h4l-9_J0Vngw9jIG-nprQ

 

[DontLookBackInAnger]

What if he (or one of his colleagues after seeing this behaviour is deemed acceptable) were to rape a fellow employee at United, is it then OK to sack him? Where do United draw the line, for me that line is already drawn after he raped and using physical violence towards another human

My understanding is the charges of rape have been dropped. However, to answer your question, if found guilty of rape totally, United would have every right to sack him. Where United should, in my view draw the line is within the limits of the law, if the CPS are stating "no longer a realistic prospect of conviction" then they can't assume guilt.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Rag manager on SKY now. They don’t half give him an easy ride

Amount of money he has spent so far he needs to be challenging for the league. From what we saw Monday night they are a long way away from that, the press won’t say anything though.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Amount of money he has spent so far he needs to be challenging for the league. From what we saw Monday night they are a long way away from that, the press won’t say anything though.

And long May it continue. 8-)

 

[Bluesince1979]

Well said mate, a great description of the utter scum of a club, its loathsome inhabitants and associates…!

Contrast how we treated mendy. Wages stopped paying, see you later. No concern about anything else but the right thing to do

 

[MadchesterCity]

My understanding is the charges of rape have been dropped. However, to answer your question, if found guilty of rape totally, United would have every right to sack him. Where United should, in my view draw the line is within the limits of the law, if the CPS are stating "no longer a realistic prospect of conviction" then they can't assume guilt.

The video and transcript prove that he is a rapist and a woman beater, its only that he hasn't been convincted because his partner is weak, manipulated and abused.
As a father of a girl this acceptance by Manchester United and normalisation of rape and abuse of woman deeply concerns me

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Got to disagree with you here. For whatever you think about what happened, by law someone is innocent until proven guilty in a court. We can argue about his guilt, but the fact remains within our system as it currently stands, those that prosecute crime don't believe they can prove his guilt. For what its worth, my view is that the system we have that effectively punishes his girlfriend if she proceeds with a complaint is wrong beyond words.

That being said as an employer, United have a duty of care to their contracted employee however distasteful that might be. Now if it was a situation like Lee Hughes I would agree with you.

Nothing to do with legality and the arguing about his guilt, this is just another stain on their club, driven by the need for money. As for duty of care, they also have a duty of care to all their supporters, the PL brand and to everybody who finds this issue repugnant, which will be the majority.

The release from the victim, and she is a victim, is what is taken into account, also the detail of her loathsome father, cannot be dismissed and is the true detail of this incident. Why the CPS dropped it is open to debate. The facts aren’t.