United Thread - 2023/24

[FantasyIreland]

Regarding the red card,which the rat exaggerated and threw himself to the ground for......why did he receive such when he wasn't the last man? is it the interpretation that it was a clear goal scoring opportunity?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

as brian clough said , if you arent active you shouldnt be on the pitch, also have you seen casemiro run, if hes in an onside position when that ball is played he never gets anywhere near that ball so arguably he gains an advantage by being there.

It’d have been offside in Clough’s heyday. Not now. The law changed years ago,

 

[Paladin]

It’s quite simple.

Casemiro is not active when the ball is clipped to Fernandes.

When he becomes active, he is behind the ball.

This isn’t my opinion; this is the laws of the game.

My question is, where does this appear in the Laws of the Game? I'm not being awkward here, and I have checked up myself. This is what I can find regarding becoming involved in active play.

My interpretation is that Casemiro was in an offside position, but not actually offside, when Rashford played the ball forward. He then played the ball that was passed to him deliberately by his team-mate. At this point, under the laws shown here, he should have been penalised for being offside.

Where is the clause that negates this view, and if such a clause exists, please tell me a set of circumstances in which this particular rule could apply.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

My question is, where does this appear in the Laws of the Game? I'm not being awkward here, and I have checked up myself. This is what I can find regarding becoming involved in active play.

My interpretation is that Casemiro was in an offside position, but not actually offside, when Rashford played the ball forward. He then played the ball that was passed to him deliberately by his team-mate. At this point, under the laws shown here, he should have been penalised for being offside.

Where is the clause that negates this view, and if such a clause exists, please tell me a set of circumstances in which this particular rule could apply.

Which bit of that law suggests Casemiro was offside?

 

[cheekybids]

It’s quite simple.

Casemiro is not active when the ball is clipped to Fernandes.

When he becomes active, he is behind the ball.

This isn’t my opinion; this is the laws of the game.

Well explained, I think that’s what he was asking.

Barca were the masters of this with Messi stood deliberately offside (legally) & become active in the next phase.

I still don’t know how the offside rule came to make this ok & yet someone’s shoulder ahead by an inch being offside. Give me the old version with a centre half holding his arm up ;)

 

[cheekybids]

My question is, where does this appear in the Laws of the Game? I'm not being awkward here, and I have checked up myself. This is what I can find regarding becoming involved in active play.

My interpretation is that Casemiro was in an offside position, but not actually offside, when Rashford played the ball forward. He then played the ball that was passed to him deliberately by his team-mate. At this point, under the laws shown here, he should have been penalised for being offside.

Where is the clause that negates this view, and if such a clause exists, please tell me a set of circumstances in which this particular rule could apply.

I think it’s the asterisk

 

[burning blue soul]

If you post that in the VAR thread, not only will you get piled on by everyone, you’ll be reminded of your post every time anything can be perceived to be helping teams in red shirts.

It’s social media in a nutshell. People love to get riled up together over a common issue.

When Forest, or Fulham, or Wolves, or fucking Man City get those decisions against the red tops, then we can negotiate. Until then I will use the evidence of my own eyes in regard to their preferential treatment by shit scared refs.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Well explained, I think that’s what he was asking.

Barca were the masters of this with Messi stood deliberately offside (legally) & become active in the next phase.

I still don’t know how the offside rule came to make this ok & yet someone’s shoulder ahead by an inch being offside. Give me the old version with a centre half holding his arm up ;)

Yeah, Pep teams’ cutback goals would all be disallowed. We’d be in the Conference League!

 

[Paladin]

I think it’s the asterisk

The first point of contact is when Rashford kicks the ball forward. Therefore offside.

 

[cheekybids]

Yeah, Pep teams’ cutback goals would all be disallowed. We’d be in the Conference League!

We wouldn’t play that way just as Pep wouldn’t have had Messi stood in no man’s land. I’m not querying the offside I’m explaining it & you play to the rules.

It’s player like Huckerby I feel sorry for, he’d never be offside now & worth a fortune.