United Thread - 2023/24

[GOULDYBOBS]

Embarrassing

 

[chris85mcfc]

This is why in games like yesterday against Arse I want the Arse to win. Rags are only ever 3 or 4 good signings away from being a genuine threat. We need them to not just suffer some bad seasons but to really suffer some humiliation and long term damage. A relegation would be the dream.

With all due respect, people have been saying that for years.

They've made good signings on paper, plenty of them, but for whatever reason it doesn't transfer onto the pitch.

They're miles away from being a genuine threat.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Rashford has liked sancho's twitter rant against the manager.

Ten haag won't be manager next season.

Clearly something going on that will hopefully leak out this week wile most are away on int break.

 

[CarlosTevez'sEnglishTutor]

IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OWNERS!!!!!!!!!!

Sad you are not winning anymore, and sad that other clubs are also now spending money.

 

[cheekybids]

I'm even wondering if this whole charade around a sale wasn't simply an attempt to bolster the share price to secure a refinancing of the debt on their mall business. If they withdraw from a sale process then it's entirely possible they've secured the finance they need for that.

Is that illegal?

 

[SilverFox2]

The rags allowed ferguson too much influence over the club since the early 90s success. He should have just been an important cog in the wheel of their organisation instead he seemed to control everything. They thought their run of success would continue indefinitely but as soon as he left the club crumbled.
Their owners solely see them as a cash cow there to milk every year. They have no hope until the club is sold and ferguson put out to pasture and that's not happening soon. Someone should write a book titled how not to run a football club. They are fucked for the foreseeable.

There are plenty of books that explain how to run any business in any sector.
Our owner was thought to be out of his depth applying those principles to his business plan for a football club.
I wonder which investment method has stood the test time?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I’d agree that the buck stops with them - and that insight into their (possible lack of) drive may well be the key to why they have shied away from hard decisions required to redevelop for the future.

But I also think that the club culture is sealing their fate.

To instigate the level of wholesale change needed would likely require the risk of accepting a guaranteed 2, maybe 3 years or more of being off the pace while they laid the new foundations and rode the learning curve.

They were not prepared to invest such time and cost, and instead have just continued to milk the ageing cash cow using the same old methods, seemingly handcuffed by their own need for constant dividend.

This, added to what is probably an ingrained culture that they are ‘too big to fail’ and that the history and media dominance of the club will keep on churning out money for them is what keeps them firmly stuck in the much more comfortable zone of trying superficial fixes, while the cycle of failure continues due to the roots being stuck in turn of the century belief systems and methods.

It’s almost as if they daren’t try anything different.

I've said all along that their aim has been to meet targets. These targets are quite explicit:

• Finish top four
• Get to the CL knockout stage
• Get to the QF of both domestic cups

That's their football objectives and what they base their revenue assumptions on. Anything more is a bonus, not an expectation. The first of those is key though. We saw LVG sacked even though he won them a trophy, because he didn't achieve that.

 

[Dirty Harry]

This.

You still get the impression that there are an awful lot of people still at the rat infested shit hole who constantly chip in with:

"Well, we've always done it this way." Whenever any semblance of common sense raises it's head. Long may it continue.

SCUM.

Think we were very lucky to have David Bernstein when we did in this respect, never felt more sure we were heading in the right direction with him, and I think his pragmatic approach really did rub off on a few people.

 

[Crooked_rain]

He's a handful, puts himself about, you know you've been in a game with him, good Plan B option.......

Should've kept Weghorst then, that's what he does.

 

[Dirty Harry]

The epitome of a waste of a fathers spunk

Reacting like the spoilt twat of a child who gets an Action Man for Christmas, opens the box only to find it empty and his dad telling him it's the Action Man Deserter model

I just see him as an act tbh, he’s hit on a ‘Partridgesque’ comedy character and it’s worked for him.