United Thread - 2023/24

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Edwood mentioned Liverpool not winning the league for 30 years and there fan base not dropping or revenue dropping that much! Like they didn't give a shit about titles but just being top four problem was they dropped out top four pretty regularly in the last 10 years!
Which is why it has been made top 5 qualify.
(I don't think it will ever be made top 11 though - lol).
 
Apparently an Arsenal fan butted Roy Keane, yesterday, and Micah had to step in.

 
City win; United lose. Mondays rarely come any better.
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Institutional failure always comes from the top. Always.
Maybe the exec's are still influenced by Ferguson's presence, so unable to carry out their roles effectively. The Glazers stay on the sidelines and do fuck all to address it in fear of upsetting the fans idolisation of the pisscan.
 
This is what I don’t get about what @SebastianBlue (who is a fucking brilliant poster btw) is saying. How can the people at the top of an organisation, with executive control, and huge resources at their disposal, not be ultimately be responsible for the direction of that organisation over a twenty year period? To say they had no power to address these things simply cannot be right given the enduring revenue of that organisation, which would have given them the means and the time to make those difficult choices.

Or putting it this way, I reckon there are sales managers on £60k who could genuinely do a better job at running that club (as would any competent person of reasonable insight and intelligence) such is their ineptitude. They really are that bad.

Second generations of self-made men are often ineffectual and decadent. They don’t have the hunger, desire or street-smart of the parent that gave them that leg up in the first place. That is what we are dealing with here.

One only has to look at the state of that stadium, in actual and relative terms to when they took over the club, to realise how much they are completely out of their depth.

On that basis, and on the basis that any competent person could do a better job, the argument they were powerless to substantively tackle the issues at the club holds no water.

It’s akin to saying Peter Swales was powerless to stop our decline over the course of his tenure.

The buck, as you say, stopped with him.
I’d agree that the buck stops with them - and that insight into their (possible lack of) drive may well be the key to why they have shied away from hard decisions required to redevelop for the future.

But I also think that the club culture is sealing their fate.

To instigate the level of wholesale change needed would likely require the risk of accepting a guaranteed 2, maybe 3 years or more of being off the pace while they laid the new foundations and rode the learning curve.

They were not prepared to invest such time and cost, and instead have just continued to milk the ageing cash cow using the same old methods, seemingly handcuffed by their own need for constant dividend.

This, added to what is probably an ingrained culture that they are ‘too big to fail’ and that the history and media dominance of the club will keep on churning out money for them is what keeps them firmly stuck in the much more comfortable zone of trying superficial fixes, while the cycle of failure continues due to the roots being stuck in turn of the century belief systems and methods.

It’s almost as if they daren’t try anything different.
 
Apparently an Arsenal fan butted Roy Keane, yesterday, and Micah had to step in.

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