United Thread - 2023/24

[Gorton_Tubster]

Thats funny.

 

[Jazzman]

I've said all along that their aim has been to meet targets. Theese targets are quite explicit:

• Finish top four
• Get to the CL knockout stage
• Get to the QF of both domestic cups

That's their football objectives and what they base their revenue assumptions on. Anything more is a bonus, not an expectation. The first of those is key though. We saw LVG sacked even though he won them a trophy, because he didn't achieve that.

I agree 100% The rags are a perfect example of a football club whose primary aim is not to win titles, but instead to make money for the owner. Think about that for a minute. A sporting team competing professionally in a sport, but not to win, instead they want to win just enough to guarantee their income. It is a perversion of the idea of sport, really. That is how the american owned clubs work. How anybody who truly loves the sport of football can think these clubs are good for the sport is a riddle to me. These kind owners are parasites on the sport, nothing less.

 

[Bozo]

New season, same old shit. Long may it continue.

 

[GSW Blue]

Stupid Rag scum

 

[malg]

Or maybe he's a shit manager looking for someone to blame?

I don't think so. He appears ok to me. He's basically called a player out in public, which is what Pep has done previously.

 

[TonyM]

1. City are the best squad in the League.
2. Arsenal have great quality.
3. Liverpool look genuine contenders this year.
4. Brighton could battle for the top if they cut out the odd stupid result.
5. Chelsea with a few more games could come good (I can see progress...I think).
6. Spurs have a decent manager who I think will eak the most points from a somewaht limited squad.
7. Newcastle will do a lot better than their current form suggests.

So that's 7 teams that have quality optimistic managers, quality squads, definite styles of play (for the most part), no in-fighting, no fan protests (maybe a smidge at Chelsea), no weird takeover shennanigans, etc etc.

Versus United having a manager who seems to be getting in a darker mood day by day, few decent players and very strange signings, a confusion on how to play, in-fighting, fan protests, disconnect with execs, etc, etc.

And then there are the other teams in the league who could give anyone a game on their day (e.g. Villa, West Ham, Palace, Brentford).

I daren't suggest it but could we finish the season as PL winners as United get.. no I can't even say it for fear of jinxing it but it rhymes with... rag elation.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

The epitome of a waste of a fathers spunk

Reacting like the spoilt twat of a child who gets an Action Man for Christmas, opens the box only to find it empty and his dad telling him it's the Action Man Deserter model

You're wrong. He's a very clever guy actually.

People don't seem to understand that he's essentially an actor playing a role. In his case the role is a united fan. He's not really a united fan of course (he's a Forest fan) but he plays the role and he plays it really well. He gets loads of people to watch him watching a game and it's paid him well. It's even got him a regular slot on the radio

In my younger days I knew quite a few of the Coronation Street cast and they'd tell amusing stories of someone coming up to them when they were out, and getting really annoyed about something their character had done, or sympathising over something bad that had happened to their character.

You can certainly criticise what he represents, which is a group of people that social media has facilitated and includes people who monetise watching their team (if it's even their team) on TV. But there is no one remotely close to him in that field.

 

[cheekybids]

Unfortunately Manchester United can stagnate and decline but as long as they remain a top eight team their valuation is still likely to rise.

The growth and dominance of the PL ensures that.

Currently they’ll have to improve if they want 8th…

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

1. City are the best squad in the League.
2. Arsenal have great quality.
3. Liverpool look genuine contenders this year.
4. Brighton could battle for the top if they cut out the odd stupid result.
5. Chelsea with a few more games could come good (I can see progress...I think).
6. Spurs have a decent manager who I think will eak the most points from a somewaht limited squad.
7. Newcastle will do a lot better than their current form suggests.

So that's 7 teams that have quality optimistic managers, quality squads, definite styles of play (for the most part), no in-fighting, no fan protests (maybe a smidge at Chelsea), no weird takeover shennanigans, etc etc.

Versus United having a manager who seems to be getting in mood day by day, few decent players and very strange signings, a confusion on how to play, in-fighting, fan protests, disconnect with execs, etc, etc.

And then there are the other teams in the league who could give anyone a game on their day (e.g. Villa, West Ham, Palace, Brentford).

I daren't suggest it but could we finish the season as PL winners as United get.. no I can't even say it for fear of jinxing it but it rhymes with... rag elation.

Brighton, Liverpool, Spurs all demonstrate that a decent manager and 3 or 4 outstanding players is enough to challenge at the top. None of these have deep quality in the squad.

 

[Grassland Blue]

I agree 100% The rags are a perfect example of a football club whose primary aim is not to win titles, but instead to make money for the owner. Think about that for a minute. A sporting team competing professionally in a sport, but not to win, instead they want to win just enough to guarantee their income. It is a perversion of the idea of sport, really. That is how the american owned clubs work. How anybody who truly loves the sport of football can think these clubs are good for the sport is a riddle to me. These kind owners are parasites on the sport, nothing less.

The tarquins did exactly the same thing.
The old cartel clubs (imo) appeared to help one another to achieve their aims.