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Just a thought.
I grew up in Ordsall and remember that area as full of heavy industry and all sorts of traffic going constantly in and out of the place. 60s/70s.
I have just finished watching Toxic Town and surely the land around there must be contaminated too.
Before the CFA could be built I remember City having to decontaminate the whole area.
So who foots the bill for that if it was discovered to be the same?
yep ...pretty much bang on. Trafford Park also had munitions factories which used to leach a whole bunch of undesirables into the ground...Cadmium, Arsenic etc..which is a bitch to get rid of. Our stadium developers failed unfortunately to TIC the mineshafts and tunells under and adj Bradford pit..some of which the council had (quite illegaly) filled with waste...Once the stadium weight went on a few of these collapsed...remember the Mcr eartthquake c. 2000...ish?....in answer, developer usually foots the bill, passes costs to client. Becomes tricky when the council get round to CPO ing a few businesses/houses which they will have to do,
 
I don’t see the big deal myself. Most teams are now moving to new stadiums. A new field doesn't necessarily means success follows.

Everton moving don’t see them claiming they will be back on the pitch. Arsenal moved and did fuck all. Tottenham moved to probably the best stadium, I suppose they are the anomaly as they kept up their useless spurs way.

Regeneration is always good.

I don’t know but it just seems more smoke without any substance. City went about their business quietly without much fuss and have created a brilliant event venue.

So yea, it don’t mean much and certainly doesn’t guarantee success on the pitch, more money for shareholders tho.
 
The numbers seem unbelievable and a little dubious.

From the BBC article...
"United say the entire project has the potential to create 92,000 new jobs, will involve the construction of 17,000 homes and bring an additional 1.8 million visitors to the area annually. They add the project will be worth an additional £7.3bn per year to the UK economy."

An additional £7.3bn per year. Works out approx £140m per week, £20m per day.

An additional 1.8m visitors annually. Approx 35,000 per week, 5,000 per day.

Taking the £7.3bn and 1.8m visitors, that means each one is expected to bring £4,000 and that's a lot of prawn sandwiches, popcorn, pizza and Coca-cola.

For one matchday it could be an extra 25,000 visitors, and let's be generous and say 30 matchdays, totals around the 0.8m for matchdays meaning the 1.0m/year or 20k/week coming for non-matchdays.
Will 20,000 additional visitors per week come to look at the canal?
It's similar to the number that go to Stonehenge every year, another prehistoric relic with little action.
 
Hilariously desperate pitch. Couldn't be more obvious they're hoping for the government to pay for this. it's the equivalent of your dog grabbing its empty bowl in its mouth standing next to you whimpering.

Not a single penny of tax payers money should go on this. If they want it, they can pay for it entirely themselves.

The people that don't spend their own money on the club, that sack minimum wage locals without a seconds thought, who have decided local kids and oap's shouldn't get a discount on tickets, who think local people should be at least paying the same price as people from the most affluent area of the country, we are supposed to believe these people are wanting a new stadium to benefit local people and not to line their own pockets further without having to shell out a penny themselves?

Good luck finding that 2 billion it will cost when the day before announcing this they've said they would have run out of money last Christmas if they didn't sack some minimum wage staff and stop giving them food.
It's almost like the NFL franchises, where they'll quite happy move City to get a brand new stadium
 
what a total shambles they are...first they cull the staff at the swamp to release funds, and stop the canteen food. Then they announce that they would have ran out of money as the £300m loan was nearly empty...

And then they announce today that they want a £2 billion 100k seater stadium building
Scruffy Jim didn't get the sympathy he craved from his puff piece interview about how hes saved the club from bankruptcy, so the next day another puff piece about a brand new stadium is released. I can't work out whether this is an upgrade on the toilet bog stadium when Sheikh Jizz was supposedly interested
 
Irrespective of cost, and how they are going to pay for it (They have said they are paying for it as part of a huge government regeneration program), if it does get built, and with Lord Foster involved, it will obviously be the best stadium in the country. It might not be to everyone's taste, but as the most modern stadium built to such a size, it will become a landmark that tourists will flock to.

If I go to Madrid or Barcelona or Munich, I always fancy a trip to the stadiums because I love football and they are iconic. The same can be said about Manchester United and Old Trafford unfortunately, even in its current state.

I think I said in an earlier post, it's only a matter of time before they get a new stadium, and they aren't going to build some half hearted stadium with a similar capacity to what they have now. Biggest stadium in the country and likely to have facilities that make most of the others in the league look second rate.

If they finance it for themselves, then fair enough, and the extra income it will generate will obviously help with servicing the borrowed cost. Whether you like it or not, their brand is still huge.

Hopefully the team on the field stays shit for a long time to come.

Rag
 
Interesting news about the Rags' new ground - Swamp Nou - today. It was oddly reminiscent of one of my old Yes bootlegs!
Please don't associate one of the worlds greatest ever bands with that sickening filth up the road. One brings me complete joy the other I despise !!!!
 
This is just the architectural equivalent of Pogba, Sanchez, Ronaldo, etc.

Spaffing cash up the wall on the latest shiny toy that’ll all crumble to shit. We know it and they know it.
 
If I was a match going United fan I’d been a little cautious about this.

Most of us blues know how crap it is to get away from Wembley. Even the Etihad, since the South Stand was expanded, has become a nightmare (God knows what it will be like when the North Stand opens).

An extra 25k people trying to get to Old Trafford will be absolute bedlam (without a major overhaul of the public transport infrastructure).

The other side is that the club will use Arsenal’s “we need to pay off the stadium” excuse for years. Ticket prices will sky rocket. The Glaziers will benefit hugely from this while their club will be saddled with even more debt.
Hopefully bankrupt them. Also, are they still intent on the British tax payer coughing up to built it ?
 
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