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Damocles said:
No, the world is fine, you've just misunderstood the concept and you've been massively overreacting to everything probably because your boogeyman just got elected to power and you're acting hysterically.

This is very simple. I have opinions. Those are opinions are not part of me, they are not part of my ego or my self-perception. They are things I carry around in a bag. When new ideas or evidence or facts come to light then I take my opinion out of the carrier bag and update, integrate or often just discard it. I have no problem doing this and do not see it as a negative. When people criticise my opinions, they are criticising the things I'm holding in the carrier bag.

You personalise your opinions. They form part of you. When someone attacks your opinions, they are attacking you. You believe these things deeply and it would take an extraordinary effort to be overturned.

We call that faith. But in your own thoughts. And as arrogant as I am, interpositioning my ideas with that of a deity seems a bit off for me
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What make of bag do you carry your opinions in.
Is it designer labelled or just a Lidl or Aldi carrier type?
I think that tells a lot about a person.
 
threespires said:
It's a nutters paradise at the moment, get yourself back to the music threads at least we only argue about how many picks a day you can have ;-)

Or alternatively we must be due a pic of that handsome hound of yours?
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I don’t have as much time to devote to the music threads these days but enjoy dipping in.
The poor little mutt is rather ill at the moment. Vomiting and projectile diarrhoea.
A visit to the vet today. He’ll be fine.

Anyway cleaning up that mess was still better than wading through some of the shit in here and several other political threads.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
I wouldn’t not visit because of him, but living here is going to change in ways not yet envisaged.
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Although Florida is every other year, i tend to visit Nebraska as often as possible to see friends.
Nebraska seems very pro Trump. Even before this shit show, i was advised to keep my Trump opinions to myself.

While there, i have seen "personal" armaments so vast it actually scared me.
Although friendly, these people are absolutely nuts. I'm not sure without the normal government controls that they would now be safe to be around.

I'll monitor the situation. But seeing the TV images of the new government reminds me of the phrase of "The inmates running the asylum". It looked like a picture of a mafia family.
Every one of them is self serving and on personal agendas, and not one moral between them. Scary days indeed.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
I don’t have as much time to devote to the music threads these days but enjoy dipping in.
The poor little mutt is rather ill at the moment. Vomiting and projectile diarrhoea.
A visit to the vet today. He’ll be fine.

Anyway cleaning up that mess was still better than wading through some of the shit in here and several other political threads.
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Aw, hope the vet gets him sorted asap.

Your last sentence sort of sums things up!
 
Damocles said:
No, the world is fine, you've just misunderstood the concept and you've been massively overreacting to everything probably because your boogeyman just got elected to power and you're acting hysterically.

This is very simple. I have opinions. Those are opinions are not part of me, they are not part of my ego or my self-perception. They are things I carry around in a bag. When new ideas or evidence or facts come to light then I take my opinion out of the carrier bag and update, integrate or often just discard it. I have no problem doing this and do not see it as a negative. When people criticise my opinions, they are criticising the things I'm holding in the carrier bag.

You personalise your opinions. They form part of you. When someone attacks your opinions, they are attacking you. You believe these things deeply and it would take an extraordinary effort to be overturned.

We call that faith. But in your own thoughts. And as arrogant as I am, interpositioning my ideas with that of a deity seems a bit off for me
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We may not see eye to eye, but this post reminded me of my favo(u)rite quote from the Kevin Smith movie "Dogma", with the "13th apostle" Rufus (Chris Rock) discussing how Christ feels about humans today with Bethany, the story's protagonist:

Rufus: He still digs humanity, but it bothers Him to see the shit that gets carried out in His name - wars, bigotry, televangelism. But especially the factioning of all the religions. He said humanity took a good idea and, like always, built a belief structure on it.
Bethany: Having beliefs isn't good?
Rufus: I think it's better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier.
 
Dax777 said:
Elon Musk! The jew hating Nazi.


I always knew he was hiding something....
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Not really hiding it, is he? Or were sleeping through his two sieg heils in the arena?

And you do realise that salute has been appropriated since the Third Reich by fascists and racists aplenty to go against many different creeds and beliefs, not just Judaism?

Or are you another that just laughs off those acts by a man who is now, by definition, a statesman, and attributing it to an autistic quirk?
 
Blue and true said:
Not really hiding it, is he? Or were sleeping through his two sieg heils in the arena?

And you do realise that salute has been appropriated since the Third Reich by fascists and racists aplenty to go against many different creeds and beliefs, not just Judaism?
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Oh ok. So its not a Nazi salute then? Pray tell, who are his Jews?

Blue and true said:
Or are you another that just laughs off those acts by a man who is now, by definition, a statesman, and attributing it to an autistic quirk?
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Why put the onus on me? You are the one who thinks he is a Nazi or Nazi adjacent going against many different creeds. You are the one who needs to explain what you see.

I just haven't seen any evidence anywhere of Elon being antisemitic. But according to you he 'may' be something else.

You can always explain yo us idiots what what that is. On you champ!
 
Every historian around agrees, it was a nazi salute. Which, according to musk and Weidel is a sign for extremist communism. So, the US turned red. Fact xD
 
Dage said:
Every historian around agrees, it was a nazi salute. Which, according to musk and Weidel is a sign for extremist communism. So, the US turned red. Fact xD
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I do wonder where we are aligned with America? Apart from the rich, I can’t see where we have a common understanding.
 
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