US Politics Thread

[The blue phantom]

The Republican party is a fuckin mess, To see that MTG strolling around

The uber **** MTG retweet went well

 

[Koniec]

The Republican party is a fuckin mess, To see that MTG strolling around

The uber **** MTG retweet went well

I’ve always wondered, why go to these things. What’s the point. Have these sad cnuts got nothing else better to do, I understand the NFL is a few weeks away but c’mon.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Reading all this it’s amazing the US has managed to survive for nearly 250 years. The reason it has of course is that generally speaking those of both parties put duty to nation over party when confronted with a choice. But the system is inherently built on the trust that this is the priority those who vote and govern and administer will make.

Oh well. Perhaps some day we can aspire to lose the biggest empire the world has known and after that vote ourselves into permanent economic exile.

Classicaly insular thinking from America. Do you not see the divergence that happened with all the same actors at play? Bannon mainly. He led to Farage. We had to deal with him over here and led ultimately to the self inflicted wound you mentioned, and youre right to, its embarassing.
Dont forget the populist wave they all rode in 2016, and Trumps enablers made this.
Brown people bad, borders good. Make everything better by virtue of that.
That is why we are now are dealing with economic decline and yes it was voted for. Idiots here followed what was a directed populist campaign intended at mobilising the chronically ignorant and it worked, for Trump, Farage Bannon, Boris Johnson (who was advised by him too), and others.
Be proud of it lasting 250 yrs by all means, but be ashamed of it now, because its a joke and it wont last another 250 and the way it is carrying on it will lead to the ruination of far better run countries than the US if they persist in half the place supporting someone who tried to start a fucking coup and isnt hiding the fact he will start another

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Reading all this it’s amazing the US has managed to survive for nearly 250 years. The reason it has of course is that generally speaking those of both parties put duty to nation over party when confronted with a choice. But the system is inherently built on the trust that this is the priority those who vote and govern and administer will make.

Oh well. Perhaps some day we can aspire to lose the biggest empire the world has known and after that vote ourselves into permanent economic exile.

Yes, but my dad is harder than your dad.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Classicaly insular thinking from America. Do you not see the divergence that happened with all the same actors at play? Bannon mainly. He led to Farage. We had to deal with him over here and led ultimately to the self inflicted wound you mentioned, and youre right to, its embarassing.
Dont forget the populist wave they all rode in 2016, and Trumps enablers made this.
Brown people bad, borders good. Make everything better by virtue of that.
That is why we are now are dealing with economic decline and yes it was voted for. Idiots here followed what was a directed populist campaign intended at mobilising the chronically ignorant and it worked, for Trump, Farage Bannon, Boris Johnson (who was advised by him too), and others.
Be proud of it lasting 250 yrs by all means, but be ashamed of it now, because its a joke and it wont last another 250 and the way it is carrying on it will lead to the ruination of far better run countries than the US if they persist in half the place supporting someone who tried to start a fucking coup and isnt hiding the fact he will start another

How is this thinking insular? I don’t know how we rebuild trust in the system. It will take a lot of GOP losses over multiple years, the probable dismantling of that party and certainly Trump’s death — and even then I’m not sure we ever rebuild the trust. The enablers as I see it are those within the GOP without the canastas to stand up to him or for us, all to protect their own electoral viability. As such, why would I disagree that the apex of the nation has been passed? I wouldn’t. It’s only now we see how fragile the system is/was because trust is always the basis for sound government, stable currency, robust trade and foreign relations, etc.That some UK politicians are copying the playbook (or were fed it) now doesn’t say much other than conservatives generally cannot cope with the replacement of the post-war boomers with younger voters — their platform doesn’t have as much to offer with the moderate left co-opting “compassionate capitalism” which leaves conservatives turning to intolerance vs compassion and authoritarianism/globalist-phobia vs capitalism as differentiating points. We just aren’t as far down the tubes as the UK is yet historically-speaking — we haven’t been as powerful for as long as England/UK once was. But sustainability of structure is helped when the US has 7x the populace and 25x the natural resources and territory — solves a lot of problems or postpones them at any rate.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

How is this thinking insular? I don’t know how we rebuild trust in the system. It will take a lot of GOP losses over multiple years, the probable dismantling of that party and certainly Trump’s death — and even then I’m not sure we ever rebuild the trust. The enablers as I see it are those within the GOP without the canastas to stand up to him or for us, all to protect their own electoral viability. As such, why would I disagree that the apex of the nation has been passed? I wouldn’t. It’s only now we see how fragile the system is/was because trust is always the basis for sound government, stable currency, robust trade and foreign relations, etc. We just aren’t as far down the tubes as the UK is yet historically-speaking — we haven’t been as powerful for as long as England/UK once was. But sustainability of structure is helped when the US has 7x the populace and 25x the natural resources and territory — solves a lot of problems or postpones them at any rate.

The GOP is utterly broken. It is a political party in name only. The idea of public service is long gone. In reality its just about power and the retaining of power by any means, generally by stirring up irrational hatred and division.

It's a self-licking lollipop, where racists, fascists and downright lunatics are made to feel at home. If the country as a whole don't wake up to this fact, there is no telling where this will end.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

We just aren’t as far down the tubes as the UK is yet historically-speaking — we haven’t been as powerful for as long as England/UK once was. But sustainability of structure is helped when the US has 7x the populace and 25x the natural resources and territory — solves a lot of problems or postpones them at any rate.

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[FogBlueInSanFran]

The GOP is utterly broken. It is a political party in name only. The idea of public service is long gone. In reality its just about power and the retaining of power by any means, generally by stirring up irrational hatred and division.

It's a self-licking lollipop, where racists, fascists and downright lunatics are made to feel at home. If the country as a whole don't wake up to this fact, there is no telling where this will end.

But there is no “waking up.” Those who know this already outvote (majority-wise) those who are a part of it who will never leave it, ever, until they die, as it’s the first time their views have been “accepted”. So the GOP is bleeding because it’s out of voters. They’re just beefing too slowly.

Let me ask this: if Trump keels over tomorrow, who becomes the de facto leader of the GOP? I don’t know but whomever it is probably can’t save it from death.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

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My wife’s on a trip so there’s no one here to translate that for me.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

My wife’s on a trip so there’s no one here to translate that for me.