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Dax777 said:
But the other guy is NOT "supposedly innocent." He belongs to the very same gang that the rapist killer belonged to, MS 13.

At a minimum, here is what we know about the Democrat's beloved "Maryland man " mascot. He is an alleged wife assaulter. 2ice once in 2020 and again on 2021 his wife sought protective orders against him with descriptions of violent assaults.

2nd, He is a member of the MS 13 gang. He was swept up in an MS 13 gang raid in 2019.
On the Prince Georgia County police record sheet, Mr. Garcia was described as wearing gang related paraphernalia common to MS 13 members, Including a hoodie with imagery the symbolizing, "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil"

A reliable informant identified Mr Garcia as an 'active' MS 13 member with the 'Westerns Clique' and described his rank as 'Chiqauo' and his gang name as 'Cheli'.

His deportation order was stayed under argument he was at risk of deathly harm from potential 'rival' gangs in his home country of El - Salvador. An immigration court concluded and an appeals court affirmed the evidence showed he was a gang member.

In 2022, a Tennessee highway patrol stopped Garcia in a car, immediately suspecting human trafficking. The officer found that Abrego was driving without a valid license, transporting 7 passengers from Texas to Maryland

One of the passengers he was transporting was on the terror watchlist. The Tennessee cop contacted the FBI ( at the time under the leadership of Christopher Ray and the Biden/ Harris Administration). and according to the Tennessean Star, the FBI instructed the officers to release all 8 individuals. Potentially releasing a MS 13 gang member, a potential terrorist and a car full of people they were potentially trafficking.


But hey!!! He hasn't attacked ( well, other than his wife), raped and killed some innocent jogger yet...So bring him back I say.... Its about "due process." Bring back our Maryland man. A father, a husband and a Maryland based Chicago bulls fan.

Because if they can do it to this 'innocent Maryland man," you could be next!!!!
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Hook, line and sinker.
 
Blue Maverick said:
I read somewhere that the Supreme court would employ US Marshall’s to got o the White House to arrest him, how would that work with the Secret service? I watched the film Civil War and at the end you see the secret service fighting the military, it does get you thinking what would happen, he’s replaced military generals with ones who seem loyal to him but would when push came to shove they go against their oaths to the usa, they could end up been Nuremberg trials if it ever came to that later. I think we are seeing the tipping point now with this lad in El Salvador even the AG is saying he will never return but won’t present evidence he was in MS13, theyve backed themselves into a corner now, if they climb down again like the tariffs they will look weak and the world will know it.
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They say they have a Confidential Informant saying he is a member of MS-13, giving his code name and that the Bulls memorabilia is part of the “uniform.”

Sounds like rock solid evidence that they would love to put in front of an immigration judge, doesn’t it?!

Meanwhile, we all wait for the first “homegrown” criminal to get exported!!

Dictators gotta be Dics!!
 
Dax777 said:
But the other guy is NOT "supposedly innocent." He belongs to the very same gang that the rapist killer belonged to, MS 13.

At a minimum, here is what we know about the Democrat's beloved "Maryland man " mascot. He is an alleged wife assaulter. 2ice once in 2020 and again on 2021 his wife sought protective orders against him with descriptions of violent assaults.

2nd, He is a member of the MS 13 gang. He was swept up in an MS 13 gang raid in 2019.
On the Prince Georgia County police record sheet, Mr. Garcia was described as wearing gang related paraphernalia common to MS 13 members, Including a hoodie with imagery the symbolizing, "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil"

A reliable informant identified Mr Garcia as an 'active' MS 13 member with the 'Westerns Clique' and described his rank as 'Chiqauo' and his gang name as 'Cheli'.

His deportation order was stayed under argument he was at risk of deathly harm from potential 'rival' gangs in his home country of El - Salvador. An immigration court concluded and an appeals court affirmed the evidence showed he was a gang member.

In 2022, a Tennessee highway patrol stopped Garcia in a car, immediately suspecting human trafficking. The officer found that Abrego was driving without a valid license, transporting 7 passengers from Texas to Maryland

One of the passengers he was transporting was on the terror watchlist. The Tennessee cop contacted the FBI ( at the time under the leadership of Christopher Ray and the Biden/ Harris Administration). and according to the Tennessean Star, the FBI instructed the officers to release all 8 individuals. Potentially releasing a MS 13 gang member, a potential terrorist and a car full of people they were potentially trafficking.


But hey!!! He hasn't attacked ( well, other than his wife), raped and killed some innocent jogger yet...So bring him back I say.... Its about "due process." Bring back our Maryland man. A father, a husband and a Maryland based Chicago bulls fan.

Because if they can do it to this 'innocent Maryland man," you could be next!!!!
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You can scoff at “due process,” but habeus corpus is what keeps us a free society and the rule of law in place.

If he is a scumbag, PROVE IT IN COURT! Then, you can deport him to whatever Hell hole is legal!

In the meantime, keep your jackboots off the table and read up on “And then they came for me…”
 
Salford_Blue said:
I agree with you about John Roberts; he does seem to push back when required, suggesting he does believe in the rule of law. But he is just one voice. Will be interesting to see how ACB and the other Republican-appointed fella (forgot his name) sway on the more serious issues that will undoubtedly arise.
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Kavanaugh is his name. Alito and Thomas are both bought and paid for lost causes (See “The Dark Side of Money” Episode 2, about SCOTUS and The Federalist Society. They don’t even hide it anymore!), but ACB has been a surprising advocate. Voting with Chief Justice Roberts COULD swing the majority in whichever direction they choose, and I’m not sure Roberts wants to be seen as allowing the dismantling of the Republic on his watch!!
Salford_Blue said:
It's very easy for us non-US citizens to try and pontificate, but as Blue_Lightsaber replied earlier, they've/you've had many chances to sort this. But after the initial furore, it all simply gets forgotten and here we are. And now this clown and his cronies have seen weaknesses.
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Trump’s a tool of the really dangerous people who are the movers and shakers behind the scenes.
Salford_Blue said:
Where's Lindsay Graham in all this?
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Local glory hole?
Salford_Blue said:
He likes a good soundbite. Are the media not bombarding him and his chums about their opinions? This isn't what all the Republican Senators believe in, surely?
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What’s to crow about? I think most Republicans AT PRESENT are giving Trump a wide berth to flounder without them. after all, no-one wants a soundbite that’s going to be run on a loop in negative TV ads against them in 12 months!
Salford_Blue said:
On a slightly side note, is Graham seen as some sort of unofficial 'leader' within the Republican party?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one!
 
Dax777 said:
But the other guy is NOT "supposedly innocent." He belongs to the very same gang that the rapist killer belonged to, MS 13.

At a minimum, here is what we know about the Democrat's beloved "Maryland man " mascot. He is an alleged wife assaulter. 2ice once in 2020 and again on 2021 his wife sought protective orders against him with descriptions of violent assaults.

2nd, He is a member of the MS 13 gang. He was swept up in an MS 13 gang raid in 2019.
On the Prince Georgia County police record sheet, Mr. Garcia was described as wearing gang related paraphernalia common to MS 13 members, Including a hoodie with imagery the symbolizing, "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil"

A reliable informant identified Mr Garcia as an 'active' MS 13 member with the 'Westerns Clique' and described his rank as 'Chiqauo' and his gang name as 'Cheli'.

His deportation order was stayed under argument he was at risk of deathly harm from potential 'rival' gangs in his home country of El - Salvador. An immigration court concluded and an appeals court affirmed the evidence showed he was a gang member.

In 2022, a Tennessee highway patrol stopped Garcia in a car, immediately suspecting human trafficking. The officer found that Abrego was driving without a valid license, transporting 7 passengers from Texas to Maryland

One of the passengers he was transporting was on the terror watchlist. The Tennessee cop contacted the FBI ( at the time under the leadership of Christopher Ray and the Biden/ Harris Administration). and according to the Tennessean Star, the FBI instructed the officers to release all 8 individuals. Potentially releasing a MS 13 gang member, a potential terrorist and a car full of people they were potentially trafficking.


But hey!!! He hasn't attacked ( well, other than his wife), raped and killed some innocent jogger yet...So bring him back I say.... Its about "due process." Bring back our Maryland man. A father, a husband and a Maryland based Chicago bulls fan.

Because if they can do it to this 'innocent Maryland man," you could be next!!!!
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Hi Nazi!
 
Dax777 said:
But the other guy is NOT "supposedly innocent." He belongs to the very same gang that the rapist killer belonged to, MS 13.

At a minimum, here is what we know about the Democrat's beloved "Maryland man " mascot. He is an alleged wife assaulter. 2ice once in 2020 and again on 2021 his wife sought protective orders against him with descriptions of violent assaults.

2nd, He is a member of the MS 13 gang. He was swept up in an MS 13 gang raid in 2019.
On the Prince Georgia County police record sheet, Mr. Garcia was described as wearing gang related paraphernalia common to MS 13 members, Including a hoodie with imagery the symbolizing, "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil"

A reliable informant identified Mr Garcia as an 'active' MS 13 member with the 'Westerns Clique' and described his rank as 'Chiqauo' and his gang name as 'Cheli'.

His deportation order was stayed under argument he was at risk of deathly harm from potential 'rival' gangs in his home country of El - Salvador. An immigration court concluded and an appeals court affirmed the evidence showed he was a gang member.

In 2022, a Tennessee highway patrol stopped Garcia in a car, immediately suspecting human trafficking. The officer found that Abrego was driving without a valid license, transporting 7 passengers from Texas to Maryland

One of the passengers he was transporting was on the terror watchlist. The Tennessee cop contacted the FBI ( at the time under the leadership of Christopher Ray and the Biden/ Harris Administration). and according to the Tennessean Star, the FBI instructed the officers to release all 8 individuals. Potentially releasing a MS 13 gang member, a potential terrorist and a car full of people they were potentially trafficking.


But hey!!! He hasn't attacked ( well, other than his wife), raped and killed some innocent jogger yet...So bring him back I say.... Its about "due process." Bring back our Maryland man. A father, a husband and a Maryland based Chicago bulls fan.

Because if they can do it to this 'innocent Maryland man," you could be next!!!!
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Plenty Bulls fans across the country. If the East Coast Crips started wearing City merch due to color and the C would all City fans become considered Crips? He’s been pictured in a Chiefs hat too. That has gang connections too, but maybe he’s a glory hunter. Deport rapists yes, but vote for one as president….well yes too.
 
Koniec said:
Plenty Bulls fans across the country. If the East Coast Crips started wearing City merch due to color and the C would all City fans become considered Crips? He’s been pictured in a Chiefs hat too. That has gang connections too, but maybe he’s a glory hunter. Deport rapists yes, but vote for one as president….well yes too.
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The Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls jersey is the highest selling sports top of all time. That's a lot of gang members.
 
"On a slightly side note, is Graham seen as some sort of unofficial 'leader' within the Republican party?"


He's undoubtedly an unofficial something.....I shall refrain from saying exactly what ..
 

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fucking hell - democracy is wrong if the will of the people doesn't chime with what i think is right. If people don't understand then as their Senator its up to you to ensure they are educated so they do understand an issue not **** access to education and what is taught

 
bluethrunthru said:
fucking hell - democracy is wrong if the will of the people doesn't chime with what i think is right. If people don't understand then as their Senator its up to you to ensure they are educated so they do understand an issue not **** access to education and what is taught

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Same could be said of a general election couldnt it, like voting for a gobshite thinking he will be looking after you!
 
bluethrunthru said:
fucking hell - democracy is wrong if the will of the people doesn't chime with what i think is right. If people don't understand then as their Senator its up to you to ensure they are educated so they do understand an issue not **** access to education and what is taught

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They’re not a democracy? They’re a republic?
I don’t get his argument. Why not both?
Ireland is a republic but we’re democratic.
 
We are just getting started on Executive Power! Wait until he can get the right case before SCOTUS and any pretense of him not being a Dictator is stripped away.

Oh wait…

The Right has been waiting for this moment for a generation or more…I give you the “unitary executive”…

www.vox.com

A major Trump power grab just reached the Supreme Court

The Court is likely to give Trump broad, unchecked authority over the federal workforce.
www.vox.com www.vox.com
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
They’re not a democracy? They’re a republic?
I don’t get his argument. Why not both?
Ireland is a republic but we’re democratic.
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I believe most Americans call it a Democratic Republic, with the phrase being used to dispel the notion that America is a “democracy.”

The only national vote we have is for the President and Vice-President, and even those votes are not decided by a straight democratic vote. Rather, we use the votes in each state to declare the “winner” in that state. From there, we use the assigned Electoral College votes for that state to count as “ALL the votes” for President from that state. This is why 270 votes, rather than a majority totaling tens of millions, is required to become President.
 
In the “things could get even worse” in-box today…

Politico, April 17, 2025
Pentagon staffers are dropping left and right.

The Pentagon has seen shake-ups this week, with top officials leaving amid leak investigations and other rifts.

Three officials were placed on leave over leaks, but that hasn't been the only upheaval.

Nearly the entire Defense Digital Team is expected to head out amid DOGE chaos.

Colin Carroll, the chief of staff to Deputy Defense Secretary Stephen Feinberg, Dan Caldwell, a senior adviser to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, and Darin Selnick, the Defense Department's deputy chief of staff, were all placed on administrative leave this week.

This development came amid a broad and seemingly chaotic investigation into recent leaks.

The leaks included information related to military plans for the Panama Canal, the Red Sea, and a trip by Elon Musk to the Pentagon to discuss China and US-provided intelligence for Ukraine.

-/-/-/-/-

The adults are leaving the building, or being systematically being removed, so Uncle Donnie the Dictator can have his toy soldiers do his bidding.
 
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