US Politics Thread

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Can you give a few examples?

I can give a few examples of Walz lying. Actually Vance was able to point it out on the fly. He was that prepared.

Vance simply was on a different level. That said, VP debates don't move the needle. But it's clear JD Vance is going to be a problem in future.

He's a problem right now for the gop. Have you seen his favourability rating?

 

[Dax777]

He's a problem right now for the gop. Have you seen his favourability rating?

Favorability ratings don't matter for V.P candidates. You should have seen Kamala's before the switch.

In general, you can expect any rising Republican to have bad favorability because the Main Stream media would bend over backwards to attack them.

The only Republicans that get good media are milk toast types that really have no chance like Cheney. "Useful idiots" to use Leftist parlance.

 

[moomba]

Vance has too many skeletons in the closet to be a serious contender imo.

If I'm honest I'd struggle to take any Republican candidate seriously that hasn't disavowed Trump. Burnt by association.

The ones that have disavowed Trump though, instant credibility boost for me.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Vance has too many skeletons in the closet to be a serious contender imo.

If I'm honest I'd struggle to take any Republican candidate seriously that hasn't disavowed Trump. Burnt by association.

The ones that have disavowed Trump though, instant credibility boost for me.

There is no way he is a contender. He's hated by the never trumper Republicans and disliked by the maga cult. So who is going to get behind him?

 

[SWP's back]

What is the betting that Sleepy Joe gets Iran and Israel confused when he finally makes the announcement?

You mean like Trump actually did yesterday?



Guru my arse, you’re a disservice to Sams.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Walz humanised Vance in that debate.

Sadly.

He cocked up on his Tianamem Square answer. All he had to say was he misspoke but that's nothing compared with the lies Vance and Trump telling every single day. Walz came across as sticking to script he was given and wasn't allowed to be his usual self. They should have let him play to his strengths not act like another stuffed suit which he came across as.

Vance came across as natural and got all his hits in with very little rebuke.

Thankfully only politics nerds watched this and it will be interesting to see how the socials frame this debate for the people who didn't witness it.

 

[SWP's back]

American politics/religion (this **** has made hundreds of millions from his “church”)

 

[SWP's back]

This is why Walz won in my opinion

 

[SWP's back]

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

This is why Walz won in my opinion

With all due respect, I am honestly sk(c)eptical that this can possibly be real.

Anyhow, as I think the consensus is Vance won the debate, my view was that as long as Walz didn't cock it up, nothing much would change, and he didn't. But I'm surprised to see some of the post-debate feedback that is more blue-positive. It's almost as if some red/undecided folks are looking for reasons to walk from Trump/Vance.