US Politics Thread

[TinFoilHat]

Yrahvt

Yeah the Federal prison system is chock fulllof MAGA warriors!! You are Jussie Smollet and I claim my 5 pounds!!

Where do you want the cheque sending?

:)

 

[Dax777]

No, it’s a “you had a gun you shouldn’t have had because you were a druggie.”

No no no. Mackenzie what else the pardon covered, not what created the basis for the pardon.

The “any future crime” pardon part is so charges cannot be tweaked and retried, etc…

He has not been charged with being an enemy of the state, nor would he…unless Trump was serious about the vindictive prosecution of his enemies list!

It's the fear that Trump might that is causing the blank immunity from January 1st 2014 but. Not the gun charge.

And, do you HONESTLY think Trump is NOT guilty of crimes, financial or otherwise???
If so, I have a Bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in!!

No. What I've said, is that he is being prosecuted because he was running for office.

There very well be crimes he is guilty of... But a finessed business reporting misdemeanor and charges over inflating his property value on loan applications, strike me as rather political....

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Our Judiciary is NOT owned. That's simply how Left leaning Americans (mostly those here) frame it.

The left and the right in America have a different World View, and when either comes to power and there is a judicial vacancy, whoever is in office picks a judge who's worldview are philosophically in line with theirs.

The pretense that the Judiciary is owned is just an often repeated lie. They simply don't agree with that worldview.

Hmmm! I see where you’re going but find that difficult working in our own judicial system.
The law is the law. Political appointments to match political views doesn’t sit tight with me.

I'm not sure that's what I said. Rather I think I said the us vs them mentality of politics vis everywhere in the West.

So is more like City vs United. City fans don't quote supporting City if Cory gets a soft penalty given to them. Yet we'd go ape-shit cursing out the same outcome of it happened against City and for day United.

That bunkering mentality makes politics intuitively dishonest. But with our sports teams the stakes for fanatical support are low..Not the same for politics.

I won’t go back and check on my recollection, I’ll accept your explanation here, but my reference to irony was particularly a memory of that horrid word- whataboutery. Basically saying you have it there too when we weren’t talking about here.
No matter. .

Do I want a less corrupt government? Come on man, who doesn't?

We all do, but the question is as much about changing a system/legislature/constitution perhaps, that greenhouses it’s growth.


Thanks for the replies by the way. I knew you would.

 

[Dax777]

Yes. He was going to cop a plea for these crimes but his lawyers.wanted blanket immunity from anything else that might pop up-ANYTHING!! Now I don’t know why the prosecutors would ok no jail time. That’s one thing but asking for blanket immunity for ANY future prosecution?? That was a bridge too far and the plea was withdrawn.

He went to trial. He lost and here we are.

That’s the definition of chutzpah…

Correction, the plea wasn't withdrawn. The Judge had to blow the whistle on the sweet deal the DOJ was trying to sneakily grant Hunter by using purposely vague language.


The Judge caught on and was like, Nah, I can't sign off on this blank immunity shit!!!

Then the DOJ quickly withdrew pretending they didn't know the deal was an immunity stitch up. :)

 

[Frank the Yank]

Yes he lost at trial in the gun charge. He copped a plea in the tax beef…

 

[ChicagoBlue]

No no no. Mackenzie what else the pardon covered, not what created the basis for the pardon.

It's the fear that Trump might that is causing the blank immunity from January 1st 2014 but. Not the gun charge.

No. What I've said, is that he is being prosecuted because he was running for office.

None of it matters in the wash.

He was NEVER going to be indicted as some kind of secret spiller, nor did his Father gain anything or give favor as VP. It was all conspiratorial BS and now he’s free of it.

There very well be crimes he is guilty of... But a finessed business reporting misdemeanor and charges over inflating his property value on loan applications, strike me as rather political....

“There very well may be…” HAHA!

Who is being partisan now?

Do you know who Al Capone was? What was he famous for? I’m sure you’ll agree it wasn’t tax evasion, but that’s what they were able to nail him on! Capiche?!

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Correction, the plea wasn't withdrawn. The Judge had to blow the whistle on the sweet deal the DOJ was trying to sneakily grant Hunter by using purposely vague language.


The Judge caught on and was like, Nah, I can't sign off on this blank immunity shit!!!

Then the DOJ quickly withdrew pretending they didn't know the deal was an immunity stitch up. :)

You have a beautiful way of IMPLYING guilt, fault, and various other forms of inappropriate innuendo as FACT, through your use of language.

The (not-so) subtle use of the art of linguistic inference is something I admire. However, in this instance, I have to object.

Bravo for the effort, though.

 

[Dax777]

Hmmm! I see where you’re going but find that difficult working in our own judicial system.
The law is the law. Political appointments to match political views doesn’t sit tight with me.

The law is the law. But Judges have to apply the general laws to specific cases that often don't fit perfectly with the law as written or with common sense.

So Judges ( at least Supreme Court Judges) have the duty of interpreting new rules and laws and whether they violate the Constitution or some existing Federal law.

This job of interpretation isn't as ironclad as we'd like to think. Different judges apply different philosophical lenses to understanding how a law should be interpreted.

TP not add my bias, I'd leave it at that. :)

I won’t go back and check on my recollection, I’ll accept your explanation here, but my reference to irony was particularly a memory of that horrid word- whataboutery. Basically saying you have it there too when we weren’t talking about here.
No matter. .

I think you might be right, but I wouldn't call that whataboutery... As I was simply pointing out that this wasn't unique.

We all do, but the question is as much about changing a system/legislature/constitution perhaps, that greenhouses it’s growth.

I get your drift and I don't disagree that there is some built in shit in the system that needs change. I simply don't know if it have the answer on how to.

Thanks for the replies by the way. I knew you would.

Lol

 

[Dax777]

None of it matters in the wash.

He was NEVER going to be indicted as some kind of secret spiller, nor did his Father gain anything or give favor as VP. It was all conspiratorial BS and now he’s free of it.



“There very well may be…” HAHA!

Who is being partisan now?

Do you know who Al Capone was? What was he famous for? I’m sure you’ll agree it wasn’t tax evasion, but that’s what they were able to nail him on! Capiche?!

The bolded is probably a lie. So I'll probably have to pardon you in future.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

The bolded is probably a lie. So I'll probably have to pardon you in future.

You prove it and I’ll apologize…and graciously accept the pardon.

However, until then, “probably” doesn’t cut it!