US Politics Thread

I think the abortion rate has gone down from a 1m in a year down to around 750k in 2019 (I think this is the last true recorded data) and then Covid hit.

It will be interesting to see the next recorded data up until this new ruling takes effect.

In fact, whilst writing this response, I had a quick look online and found that Abortion Rates Rose in 2020...

There's blame for the Trump administration as you mentioned before, fair enough, but there's also a very peculiar catch all phrase of "unintended pregnancies" which, to me, means 'irresponsibility'.

I was using general stats not just USA. For the reasons I mentioned as well as the fact that the USA is an outlier in that it has no universal healthcare system, it isn't reliable to use as a case study for that correlation.
 
But freely available contraception has already pushed abortion rates down.

It’s a failsafe. Nobody who uses the service, apart from vulnerable people with mental health issues think otherwise.

It’s a traumatic experience and I don't think many women would choose to undergo it for a second time if they could avoid it.
I personally have never had an abortion, but I have had friends who have had multiple abortions. To make a mistake once is forgivable, to keep making the same mistake in relation to having multiple abortions is morally indefensible in my view. I will admit they went down in my estimation after this.
 
I personally have never had an abortion, but I have had friends who have had multiple abortions. To make a mistake once is forgivable, to keep making the same mistake in relation to having multiple abortions is morally indefensible in my view. I will admit they went down in my estimation after this.
Why?
 
I personally have never had an abortion, but I have had friends who have had multiple abortions. To make a mistake once is forgivable, to keep making the same mistake in relation to having multiple abortions is morally indefensible in my view. I will admit they went down in my estimation after this.

I think someone is asking why it's wrong for abortion to be used as a contraception...
 
I think someone is asking why it's wrong for abortion to be used as a contraception...
Didn't see that. Abortions should never be used as a form of contraception. That is morally so wrong. I would have to question why somebody with a modicum of Intelligence would even suggest that is acceptable.
 
Not really. The rest of the first world disagrees with that.

Your country is being overrun by religion and populism.

No other first world country would ever consider banning abortions. Not even the land of the catholics in Italy.

This ruling is nothing to do with abortions really, it’s about the abuse of power.
The rest of the first world disagrees with what exactly?

For the record, Overturning Roe v. Wade did not ban abortion.

And you are right, the ruling was about the abuse of power. The 5 Justices concluded that 9 Justices in 1972 overstepped their Judicial powers by creating a law they had no business creating. I agree with them. And here is the kicker. Almost no one disagrees with them. Not even the dissenting Justices. Such laws should have been made by a legislature elected by the people. Not 9 unelected men.

As you put it, like other 'First World nations', the U.S. should reach it's pro-abortion stance like everyone else. At the ballot!
 
The rest of the first world disagrees with what exactly?

For the record, Overturning Roe v. Wade did not ban abortion.

And you are right, the ruling was about the abuse of power. The 5 Justices concluded that 9 Justices in 1972 overstepped their Judicial powers by creating a law they had no business creating. I agree with them. And here is the kicker. Almost no one disagrees with them. Not even the dissenting Justices. Such laws should have been made by a legislature elected by the people. Not 9 unelected men.

As you put it, like other 'First World nations', the U.S. should reach it's pro-abortion stance like everyone else. At the ballot!
Ok mate. It’s not changed anything. Women are grumpy for no reason. They’re probably on their period or something.

Same sex marriage will be next.

Its ok though. You’re making your country “better”.
 

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