US Politics Thread

Gaudion M said:
Some interesting thoughts. Who knows what he really thinks and how much strategic thinking goes on on his brain at all. Do other people's words just bounce around in his head?

Running protects him to some extent but it also creates the requirement to fund raise and disclose the details in line with campaign laws. That interferes with his grift operation where its easier for him to misappropriate the funds. Whatever he decides its going to be a very different and challenging few years leading into the next election. He might get a but of a shock.
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It does require fund-raising, and you're right -- you'd think some who supported him becuase he'd be business-friendly but see him now as unlikely to win the nomination would shift to DeSantis. Having said that, if his assumption is he's going to pursued legally no matter what he does, what's one more crime he can successfully fight off with the court system/process? You'd figure he'd be out of options by now when it comes to those who trust him enough to defend him, but the capacity of others to overestimate him really does boggle the mind.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
It does require fund-raising, and you're right -- you'd think some who supported him becuase he'd be business-friendly but see him now as unlikely to win the nomination would shift to DeSantis. Having said that, if his assumption is he's going to pursued legally no matter what he does, what's one more crime he can successfully fight off with the court system/process? You'd figure he'd be out of options by now when it comes to those who trust him enough to defend him, but the capacity of others to overestimate him really does boggle the mind.
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Agree. I can just see a scenario where DeSantis out fund raises him consistently and fox starts to lean to Ron and then he is basically a confirmed loser. It could unravel quickly.

Or go completely the other way and he could surprise us all again.

But my suspicion is he will not have the impact with donors in what will be his 3rd campaign and with DeSantis looking in good shape. And if that is the case he would ultimately unleash all hell on the GOP.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
He lives in fucking Indiana, where Trump won by 16 points and won 87 of 92 counties.

Even if he lives in Indianapolis, which went for Biden, he has 87 fucking counties to choose from where he can be surrounded by his own kind, so he doesn't get to woman.

And yes he's full of shit regardless.
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I used to work for a company whose HQ was in rural Buttfuck, Indiana and the locals were frighteningly right wing and pig ignorant in equal measure.
 
Gaudion M said:
I'm not sure he would ever run as an independent.

He would want to out of spite. But he would also know that the outcome is s a guaranteed sizeable defeat. And he is not going to want that.

And coming back to spite. I think he will just apply massive pressure on Ron to quit. And if he doesn't wuit Trump will just make a shit show of the process. Refuse to do any debates and just insist his followers vote for him and if he doesn't win tell them to quit and not vote for anyone. He doesn't need to run as an independent to tear the whole thing down. He will go a long way to doing that over the next year. It's pretty much all on fox news / murdoch and how they play it.
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He would hunt at running to keep the grift going then claim he can't due to (insert conspiracy theory here).

And will then continue asking for money to fight the lizard people.
 
Given that the Georgia Senate race is heading for a runoff, I wonder what impact that will have on the timing of various federal and state charges thought to be pending against Trump. Surely Georgia won't file election interference charges against Trump while the runoff is ongoing; I guess that federal prosecutors will hold off as well.

At least I hope that charges aren't immediately filed - as that will likely give Walker a boost.
 
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