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Rascal said:
See we disagree, no need to shout, you are sounding like Donald now.

Corporations should have zero influence on democracy because in my world corporations would not exist. Corporate power is killing democracy, Big corporations, like Google, Facebook, and Apple start by appropriating technologies developed at the public expense by governments and universities. Workers are exploited for profit. Low wages and poor labour regulations are the norm Corporations rely on plundering the planet of natural and social resource. The largest cost of resource extraction is environmental destruction and corporate risk is externalized and the public pay through a system of Corporate Socialism.

And people on here wonder why I am not happy with the expansion of corporate power into the political realm with their banning of Trump. They are already too powerful, they need reining in and cut down to size.

Because SWPs bless his little cotton's cannot see that this type of move is a step towards Oligarchy, he is sweet though and gets very sweary at times :))
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I get it — you believe power should rest with the state. As with those leaning towards extreme views left and right, we end up in the same place: totalitarianism. “In my world” is the giveaway.

The rest of us — who may or may not agree with the message or motive but not the means — will participate in a representative democracy, and vote for candidates who want to balance regulation of industry with the ability of those industries to employ people and provide goods and services to us at prices lower than what it would cost us to develop them ourselves.
 
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FogBlueInSanFran said:
You believe power should rest with the state. As with those leaning towards extreme views left and right, we end up in the same place: totalitarianism. “In my world”
Is the giveaway.
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And you are a Corporatist, and the more educated amongst the BM glitterati will know what that entails.

You are fun Mr Fog, i like you.
 
ordinary people:
Free speech - tweet/post
Stifled speech - try holding a press conference...

President of the USA:
Free speech - hold a press conference
stifled speech - try sending a tweet/post

it’s not rocket science to work out.
 
bluethrunthru said:
No he doesn't. No press in attendance - just make a statement. Thing is of course thats not him is it? He wants that control of his Twitter account to blurt out his bull shit commentary on life. Continued TV appearances would open him up to ridicule and he knows it
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I was being sarky:-)
 
Rascal said:
If twitter had banned Biden, the very same people on here who getting hot under the collar about my post would then be outraged at the banning of Biden and saying Corporate power has gone to far.
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If Biden had broken every single published rule of Twitter for four years, no they wouldn’t. That’s absurd and a lie.
 
The banning itself in isolation isn’t worrying.

What is worrying is the blatant conspiring by these huge and influential social media organisations like Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Google and Apple joining the party by issuing pre-emptive strikes on Parler yesterday, the platform where Trump would have ended up. Added to the fact that CNN are actively trying to get any right wing channel taken off the air in America.

I know who I’m preaching to on here, but this is actual authoritarianism. And it’s not being handed down by elected officials who are accountable, but by Silicon Valley.
 
Rascal said:
His actions were crass, the man is a narcissistic clown, I don't like him at all.

People are confusing the two.

If twitter had banned Biden, the very same people on here who getting hot under the collar about my post would then be outraged at the banning of Biden and saying Corporate power has gone to far.

Because the issue is about Corporate power and how far it has seeped into society and how much it affects our lives and our democracy.
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If Biden had incited violence and pushed conspiracy theories for 4+ years then everyone would be cheering him getting banned.
 
@BluePhil8 said:
The banning itself in isolation isn’t worrying.

What is worrying is the blatant conspiring by these huge and influential social media organisations like Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Google and Apple joining the party by issuing pre-emptive strikes on Parler yesterday, the platform where Trump would have ended up. Added to the fact that CNN are actively trying to get any right wing channel taken off the air in America.

I know who I’m preaching to on here, but this is actual authoritarianism. And it’s not being handed down by elected officials who are accountable, but by Silicon Valley.
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Fascinating. I wonder if maybe these organizations are doing what they are doing because they are afraid that maybe new customers who have other means of communicating or other competitive products they can buy might decide to abandon their products in favor of others if they allow other users to repeatedly infringe the rules they themselves set up.

Just a thought from my teenage kids who don’t use Facebook or Twitter.
 
SWP's back said:
If Biden had broken every single published rule of Twitter for four years, no they wouldn’t. That’s absurd and a lie.
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You are getting very hot under the collar, calm down pal. calm down.

What do you think will happen if Biden has the cojones to rein in corporate power. Because by saying nothing now corporate power is free to do as it wishes. Is that absurd?
 
@BluePhil8 said:
I know who I’m preaching to on here, but this is actual authoritarianism. .
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Nah. It’s some influential institutions deciding, perfectly legally, that they don’t want any part in enabling a proto-fascist regimes. Where’s the problem?
The only thing that pisses me off is that they’ve waited until now.
 
@BluePhil8 said:
The banning itself in isolation isn’t worrying.

What is worrying is the blatant conspiring by these huge and influential social media organisations like Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Google and Apple joining the party by issuing pre-emptive strikes on Parler yesterday, the platform where Trump would have ended up. Added to the fact that CNN are actively trying to get any right wing channel taken off the air in America.

I know who I’m preaching to on here, but this is actual authoritarianism. And it’s not being handed down by elected officials who are accountable, but by Silicon Valley.
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CNN are rightly calling out fox news , they have been a disgrace to the profession and have some of the most right wing people working there that i have ever seen , they have enabled trump for more than four years, abuse the power he was given
 
@BluePhil8 said:
The banning itself in isolation isn’t worrying.

What is worrying is the blatant conspiring by these huge and influential social media organisations like Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Google and Apple joining the party by issuing pre-emptive strikes on Parler yesterday, the platform where Trump would have ended up. Added to the fact that CNN are actively trying to get any right wing channel taken off the air in America.

I know who I’m preaching to on here, but this is actual authoritarianism. And it’s not being handed down by elected officials who are accountable, but by Silicon Valley.
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Spot on.
 
mat said:
I think the majority of us are in agreement the Fascist has been found out.

The effects of the corporate world on our lives both on a personal and political level is really worth a thread of its own which will probably tank after 4 pages sadly despite it being an important topic.
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Yeah, I think you should start a thread on the evil of the phone company, or maybe railroads or steel in the 1880s and how monopolies In all those industries continue to dominate the world. :)

In 30 years people will be laughing about how there was once this company called “Facebook”.
 
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