US Politics Thread

[PinkFinal]

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Some 60 minutes stuff is decent journalism, but politically leaning in the direction of fox news (for context).

 

[PinkFinal]

Some 60 minutes stuff is decent journalism, but politically leaning in the direction of fox news (for context).

Ah right you wouldn't know it was right biased from that interview

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Ah right you wouldn't know it was right biased from that interview

I haven't watched it yet mate, but do watch a lot of 60 mins stuff when I. In Oz. It's good and in many ways a throwback to when we had good investigative journalism on TV in the UK, but a lot of paranoid stuff about the Chinese and endorsing RW US foreign policy in particular. I'll try to watch this one later

 

[halfcenturyup]

Ha ha — of course. I’ve only seen it like 40 times!!!

Married my wife — or should I say, was attracted to her — in large part because she looks like Diane Keaton :).

Fuck me. Reading that, I thought you were going to say Woody Allen .....

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

What else is there to say, really? We’re on the the ninth goddamn motherfucking year of this, since he walked down that escalator. What other argument should I be listening to and thinking about? I’ve heard them all. And nearly every new argument is “Kamala bad.” FFS — even Trump doesn’t have any new arguments for himself!

Trump's best hope is enough people forget how awful he was.

He is by a huge margin the worst candidate any party has ever put up in living memory. The only reason he is still standing is he has bullies the Republican party in to accepting him as a cult leader. The gop love an authoritarian bully and so there mostly happy to go with it. Turning a blind eye to the rape, fraud and endless grift.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Trump's best hope is enough people forget how awful he was.

He is by a huge margin the worst candidate any party has ever put up in living memory. The only reason he is still standing is he has bullies the Republican party in to accepting him as a cult leader. The gop love an authoritarian bully and so there mostly happy to go with it. Turning a blind eye to the rape, fraud and endless grift.

In decades past, primarily white Americans in rust-belt/southern states have relied on well-paying factory jobs in industry: mining, steel working, automobile manufacturing, etc. Graduate from college, get married, get a union job in the local factory and have a good life.

Globalization has largely ended this. And there's been little in the way of government assistance from either party trying to improve the lot of such folk.

Always mistrustful of government and now hurting economically, a lot of Americans are pissed off and just want major change.

Into the mix is the godawful distribution of wealth - a fraction of the populace holds the majority of wealth. Of itself, this is alone is enough to spark massive unrest.

Which is to say, the MAGA folk are by-in-large not well off economically, mistrustful of government, undereducated, religious, and, above all, want change. They're ripe for demagoguery. And Trump delivers a message they want to believe in.

It's a mess - and will take decades to address.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

In decades past, primarily white Americans in rust-belt/southern states have relied on well-paying factory jobs in industry: mining, steel working, automobile manufacturing, etc. Graduate from college, get married, get a union job in the local factory and have a good life.

Globalization has largely ended this. And there's been little in the way of government assistance from either party trying to improve the lot of such folk.

Always mistrustful of government and now hurting economically, a lot of Americans are pissed off and just want massive change.

Into the mix is the godawful distribution of wealth - a fraction of the populace holds the majority of wealth. Of itself, this is alone is enough to spark massive unrest.

Which is to say, the MAGA folk are by-in-large not well off economically, mistrustful of government, undereducated, religious, and, above all, want change. They're ripe for demagoguery. And Trump delivers a message they want to believe in.

It's a mess - and will take decades to address.

I think that picture is mirrored across much of the western world. Economic hard times = the rise of the right.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I think that picture is mirrored across much of the western world. Economic hard times = the rise of the right.

I disagree with both of you.

It’s much simpler than this.

Social media has made people far more aware of what they don’t have and others do.

And charlatans have exploited this.

That’s all.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

I disagree with both of you.

It’s much simpler than this.

Social media has made people far more aware of what they don’t have and others do.

And charlatans have exploited this.

That’s all.

And also social media has killed ethical standards in journalism. Educated people still look to the credibility of information where as the unwashed are now served up BS that is aligned to what the right wing populist want them to think.

The Internet is a cesspit of information and its deliberately polluted with certain types of information.