US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

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Laziness isn't the issue (it might be part of it), it's expectations. A lot of British people view certain jobs as beneath them, whereas migrants see a wage and a future.
To some degree that’s true, but a lot of these jobs basically pay slave wages. If you’ve got a family or could get more from benefits why would you bother?
 
My view is what it has always been. The culture war stuff is a red herring and people vote with their wallets.

If you feel poorer than you did four years ago, you vote out the current government. Whether it's their fault or not it doesn't really matter, it's just how it works.

The post-covid inflation bubble has killed the Democrats' campaign, not all the 'woke vs anti woke' stuff. That's all just noise IMO. Same in this country. Look at when there are big changes in government, it's always the economy, stupid.

And that's an area where Harris and Biden consistently polled far behind Trump. Game over. I said it years ago.
You could be right, the other reasons don't seem logical to me.
 
Lots of glib bullshit being posted, but I can tell you that every woman I know is aghast at the Handmaid’s Tale future they face, and it’s no joke to them. Women will die because of this. Expect an almost national abortion ban within the next year, with penalties for doctors, nurses and women up to and including life imprisonment.

As someone who flies overseas for a living, mainly to Europe, I’m fucking embarrassed to be associated with the tens of millions of uneducated and confused white males who elected this empty fuck.
As a woman, It feels incredibly sad and lonely this morning. You all may laugh about it, and I can’t believe I’m sharing this on a sports forum, but the feeling of having no bodily autonomy is horrifying.
 
As he and his team have said they'll be putting 25% levy on imports from places like the UK... I don't get anyone in this country being very happy at his win.
 
Lots of glib bullshit being posted, but I can tell you that every woman I know is aghast at the Handmaid’s Tale future they face, and it’s no joke to them. Women will die because of this. Expect an almost national abortion ban within the next year, with penalties for doctors, nurses and women up to and including life imprisonment.

As someone who flies overseas for a living, mainly to Europe, I’m fucking embarrassed to be associated with the tens of millions of uneducated and confused white males who elected this empty fuck.
Was reading that individual states have been busy enshrining the rights to abortion into state constitutions including a few that have voted Trump like Kentucky, Ohio and Kansas. So not sure if a national ban would be feasible or possible.
 
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