US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

The Future’s Blue! said:
I take it you’re American? Please remember, this is mainly a British, no, Manchester forum, and we look after our own.

If you had any intention of actually understanding people, you’d have read that I called the vote well before it was called in your own country, and have no real issues with what Trump will do, as we just adapt.

Just to confirm, you are American and have a vote?

PS. No need to reply, I’m off to bed.
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I live in, and born and bred in greater Manchester. And my ideal is pretty much not to argue. But you still haven't answered.
 
I think they are all mouth no trousers

I don’t think they expected to win and now they have they are like “phew and also can’t be arsed with all the continuing agro”

In a way Trump has been found out. Found out by voters. Time to put up or shut the the fuck up. He has been given this massive mandate I don’t think they were expecting. Its focusing minds.
 
The blue phantom said:
1'450 Missinformation Tweets since January he's posted to over 200 Million followers. It most definitely would of swayed a lot of folk who swallowed it all.
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The issue I’ve got is it shows the weakness of the underlying argument if you’ve got to continually be disingenuous. The problem is we’re so far into the post truth world nowadays that people do just swallow it.

It’s just so depressing that political arguments seemingly aren’t won on actual merit nowadays.
 
The error they made was that the establishment went after trump and used propaganda and even lies in some cases to fight back against his own lies and populism. I mean Trump has said some crazy shit and he will do and say whatever to win. However, you can’t take the moral high ground and then resort to similar tactics. Wrongly or rightly a lot of Americans saw that and judged the dems on their hypocrisy whilst trump ironically got a pass despite being such a dick.

Funny old world.
 
bugsyblue said:
The error they made was that the establishment went after trump and used propaganda and even lies in some cases to fight back against his own lies and populism. I mean Trump has said some crazy shit and he will do and say whatever to win. However, you can’t take the moral high ground and then resort to similar tactics. Wrongly or rightly a lot of Americans saw that and judged the dems on their hypocrisy whilst trump ironically got a pass despite being such a dick.

Funny old world.
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Have you got an example?
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Articulated brilliantly however it’s easy to slag off Harris campaign after the result - I personally felt she was doing all the right things, positive, hardly any gaffes,smashed Trump in the head to head debate.
If she had focused on the economy progressing and job sector doing well no one would have cared.

Trump won on lies, misinformation and being a WWE figure that ‘owns the libs’, can ‘Make America Great Again’ and is against the ‘Mainstream Media’ all backed by the worlds richest man pumping constant propaganda for Trump on the biggest social media platform. I don’t think a Harris change of philosophy for her campaign would have made any difference .
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You are missing the point again. Why is owning the libs so important to republican voters? Why is making America great again so appealing? Why are they against the mainstream media? Until the democrats come to terms with those questions, it won't matter what their policies are, or absent someone special, who their candidates are.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
I can see why they might think you're a bell end tbh.

I won't apologise for wishing a vile rapist died instead of a firefighter who took a bullet for his family.
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To wish someone dead/shot is an absolute vile and abhorrent thing to say, irrespective of their beliefs, especially considering there a parent and grandparent, the poor Fireman dying was a tragedy, but blame the shooter not Trump.
I glad my American friends and family did the right thing and voted for Trump..
 
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