US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

[Tb1981]

That is not the point , they have fought so hard it is up to them if they want to have russians on their land , they shouldnt be forced into it by trump

I would love Ukraine to win as I have Ukrainian friends over here who have fled
But it’s just not that simple

 

[kaz7]

Too much scaremongering about what happens in Europe if trump wins.

Firstly, Zelensky will simply tell him to fuck off, trump can't force him to give up any land, he can withdraw support obviously, but I feel Europe would step in.

Secondly, he could also withdraw support/finance for NATO, but trump likes power, and depending on what he tells NATO, Europe (incl UK) can just tell him to take his troops out of their bases in Europe, he won't like that, and he will back down imho. The US has bases all over Europe, and it does so for influence in Europe, there's no way he'll want to lose that. So there's not much logic in that argument either.

Also before anyone says putin will over run Europe, think on, because putin has been completely unable to over run Ukraine, so he won't be thinking of taking the rest of Europe on (with or without the US).

I have heard trump saying putin is his hero and he thinks he is great guy etc , along with zelensky telling him to do one , i think i am right to worry

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Beyonce

I’d vote for her.


















To sit on my face.

 

[Tb1981]

I have heard trump saying putin is his hero and he thinks he is great guy etc , along with zelensky telling him to do one , i think i am right to worry

when did he say Putin is his hero?

 

[kaz7]

when did he say Putin is his hero?

Sometime in the last few weeks

 

[kaz7]

I am usually awake by three am so i hope to wake up to some early but good news

Cu later

 

[cleavers]

I have heard trump saying putin is his hero and he thinks he is great guy etc , along with zelensky telling him to do one , i think i am right to worry

Worry away, but I gave you many of the reasons not to, and that's only "if" he gets in. The US is not trump, even if he wins.

(I'm not sure where you heard "trump saying putin is his hero" but wherever it was, you probably need to stop reading it.)

 

[Elbow beards]

I’d vote for her.


















To sit on my face.

If you like her you should have put her ring on it. ;)

 

[TonyM]

To be fair to him he had half a point about wanting members to make bolder budget commitments and not have America foot the world police bill.

Ukraine changed the game with that and Europe has woken up now to the threat on its borders.

He can’t “dissolve” NATO but it worries me that he would undermine it, the west will definitely be weaker should he win.

Putin wins in Ukraine and the world is a different place. Which is why we need to keep our resolve in that war.

I'm not worried about the Russians. They'll just take the nice parts of Europe. Same as the Romans. They'll stop at Newcastle and the Irish sea.

 

[TonyM]

I’d vote for her.


















To sit on my face.

I'd prefer to sit on her face but she'd probably refuse.

Just like the rest.