VAR - 2020/21

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Definite penalty for Jesus last night. Very similar to the disallowed non penalty/ Aguero dive last season that sidelined him for months
 
I think the only way they can regain fans trust for VAR is to make it totally transparent. Tough to do though when the action is still ongoing like last night's non-penalty while decisions are being deliberated. Wouldn't help fans in the stadiums when they return but maybe release transcripts of the VAR referee's decisions which can be relayed on any highlights/match re-run programme's to get around this.

I know they won't as match officials don't seem to like being held accountable nor do their respective organisations like to admit they get things wrong.
 
porkchopsaplenty said:
I had a bet on ffs. Not only were City robbed of a Pen & another goal to help the GD I was taxed too Haha. 28-1 on City to win 3-0 Jesus to score first. We won that's the main thing but I was royally pissed off at the time in the game
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Ha! I’ve found this recently. City will be winning and I’m still. It satisfied because I need a foden goal or a Mahrez shot on target ha!
 
JRockBlues said:
I think the only way they can regain fans trust for VAR is to make it totally transparent. Tough to do though when the action is still ongoing like last night's non-penalty while decisions are being deliberated. Wouldn't help fans in the stadiums when they return but maybe release transcripts of the VAR referee's decisions which can be relayed on any highlights/match re-run programme's to get around this.

I know they won't as match officials don't seem to like being held accountable nor do their respective organisations like to admit they get things wrong.
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I get your point about the transparency and I agree...we should be able to hear their conversations and the logic behind decisions....

But if that was the case all we’d hear is more Peter Walton type nonsense and would infuriate is even more
 
Surprise surprise, they overturn Bednereks red card, that was literally given by VAR. So are they just admitting they are incompetent or corrupt? Which one is it?
 
BigOscar said:
Surprise surprise, they overturn Bednereks red card, that was literally given by VAR. So are they just admitting they are incompetent or corrupt? Which one is it?
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Two option really
1. He made a genuine attempt to play the ball so still a pen but not a red. No chance
2. Admit that Mike Dean got the first decision wrong. OK fair enough mistakes happen. But then the var ref thinks its a foul as well because he tells Mike Dean to check for a red card. Then Mike Dean looks at the screen and still thinks it a foul

One mistake in real time anyone can accept but two mistakes when two different refs are looking at the screen and still thinks it's a foul is blatant cheating
 
BigOscar said:
Surprise surprise, they overturn Bednereks red card, that was literally given by VAR. So are they just admitting they are incompetent or corrupt? Which one is it?
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And Southampton have written to the authorities requesting Dean and Mason to not referee them again! If we did that there wouldn't be many refs left to choose from.
 
stonerblue said:
perspective in this pic looks well off too me. Look at halfway line angle and distances from edge of pic to top and bottom of line.
THe angle for the offside line looks much more 'tilted' than the hw line as well
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that's the thing, when you are talking toenail margins, it's so easy to draw those lines with a slightly skewed perspctive to get the result you are after. Not sure why there aren't fixed cameras with properly calibrated gridlines.......well i do actually!
 
But the job has already been done. The goal difference has improved-(the 3 additional goals scored just put icing on the cake), the ref says it was a genuine error and PIGMOL don't say a word. Bent as hell but no comeback on any of the parties involved.
 
BigOscar said:
Surprise surprise, they overturn Bednereks red card, that was literally given by VAR. So are they just admitting they are incompetent or corrupt? Which one is it?
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Yes allegedly or apparently they agreed with the ref that it was a penalty but the ref didn't want to send him off, VAR said he should and that is the reason why he viewed the monitor.
A total farce and then of course we had last night's farce.
It may be incompetent but myself I believe it is corrupt.
 
BigOscar said:
Surprise surprise, they overturn Bednereks red card, that was literally given by VAR. So are they just admitting they are incompetent or corrupt? Which one is it?
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As there are both a Var official and a Assistant Var official, i fail to see how both can be wrong/incompetent over 1 decision as surely the assistant can say you have that wrong. So comes down to Corruption or not wanting to overide their mates clear error on the pitch
 
hertsblue said:
As there are both a Var official and a Assistant Var official, i fail to see how both can be wrong/incompetent over 1 decision as surely the assistant can say you have that wrong. So comes down to Corruption or not wanting to overide their mates clear error on the pitch
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Corruption is the right answer .
 
hampshireblue said:
But the job has already been done. The goal difference has improved-(the 3 additional goals scored just put icing on the cake), the ref says it was a genuine error and PIGMOL don't say a word. Bent as hell but no comeback on any of the parties involved.
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Have they not announced that Martial will get a retrospective ban for diving (again).
 
This was what the FA was going to introduce for the 2017/18 season.

https://www.thefa.com/news/2017/may/18/fa-to-punish-simulation-retrospectively-180517

THE FA HAS EXTENDED ITS POWERS TO PUNISH SIMULATION RETROSPECTIVELY FROM NEXT SEASON

The FA has extended its powers to punish simulation retrospectively.

A new offence of ‘Successful Deception of a Match Official’ will be in force from the start of the 2017-18 season, after the regulation change was approved by The FA Council today [18 May] and following a period of consultation with stakeholders over the past few months.

Where there is clear and overwhelming evidence to suggest a match official has been deceived by an act of simulation, and as a direct result, the offending player’s team has been awarded a penalty and/or an opposing player has been dismissed, The FA will be able to act retrospectively under its Fast Track system.

A panel consisting of one ex-match official, one ex-manager and one ex-player will be asked to review all available video footage of the incident independently of one another and then advise The FA as to whether they believe it was an offence of ‘Successful Deception of a Match Official’. Only in circumstances where the panel are unanimous would The FA charge the individual concerned.

This process would be similar to the one used now for a red card offence [violent conduct/serious foul play/spitting at an opponent] which was not seen at the time by the match officials but caught on camera. In this situation, three ex-elite match officials review all the available video footage independently of one another and then advise The FA as to whether they believe it was an offence worthy of instant dismissal.

In accepted and/or proven cases of simulation and/or feigning injury, the offending player would receive a two-match suspension.

Although attempts to deceive the referee by feigning injury or pretending to have been fouled is a cautionable offence for unsporting behaviour, the fact that the act of simulation has succeeded in deceiving a match official and, therefore, led to a penalty and/or dismissal, justifies a more severe penalty which would act as a deterrent.

Should a charge of ‘Successful Deception of a Match Official’ be admitted or found proven, the Independent Regulatory Commission will have the power to rescind the caution or dismissal received by the opposing player as a result of the simulation if it chooses to do so.

The Fast Track system for dealing with incidents retrospectively, which was brought in by The FA for the start of the 2004-05 season, enables disciplinary cases to be dealt with prior to the offending player’s next competitive game.
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The question is, has this policy been officially dropped, or just conveniently ignored?

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I bet utd top the chart for the most red cards rescinded for opposition teams against them.
I don't think this makes sense reading it back!!

I'm trying to say I've lost count the amount of teams the rags play where a man gets sent off for the other team, utd gain the advantage and come the next day the FA decide to rescind it. It stinks but it's been going on for years.
 
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