VAR - 2020/21

[GaudinoMotors]

the easier option would be to scrap VAR and let refs make blind guesses and incorrect calls on a much more frequent basis.

Nah let them carry on being completely unanswerable and backed up by an easily corruptable process.

 

[Hart of the Matter]

the easier option would be to scrap VAR and let refs make blind guesses and incorrect calls on a much more frequent basis.

Look. You have won. VAR will stay and will never be scrapped.

So I am the old man shouting at clouds.

What you fail to recognise is that those mistakes are part of the emotional tapestry of the game for over a century. Those dubious decisions fueled us and we could properly celebrate in the instance. And VAR is not reducing the dubious calls as you describe.

The game has gone. It has become sterile and scientific instead of art. You are welcome to your new world but don't try and convince us it is better. It is not. And if you choose to piss on my chips, expect a reaction.

 

[Corky]

Contact has to be sufficient to bring someone down, surely.
I wonder if there is a place for a penalty to be given because there has been contact but also a card for simulation; yesterday's simulation by Salah would be a case in point and it is to do with the ethics and beauty of the game that, currently, are not being used by players, nor those running the game who are allowing the practice to continue by rewarding it.

Contact isn't required for a penal foul. Obviously if you grab an opponent there is contact needed, but there has never been any requirement that a player is 'brought down'. Grabbing can stop or block someone and the found should be given, as it is impeding and you don't grab someone by accident.

It was piss poor all round by the defender who made the mistake then a foul. There is no 'soft' in the laws, it either is a foul or it isn't.

 

[mike1923]

Mike Dean + Mason got it very wrong, they had VAR with clear replays and still got it wrong. that doesn't mean the system needs replacing, it means the officials do.

2 reds in 2 games that they managed to get wrong even with the use of video replays. Dean needs demoting

 

[Eds]

I wonder how feasible it would be to have some ex players (those that have retired in the past five years) with the VAR refs looking at incidents.

 

[richardtheref]

The new weekly quote on MOTD. "It's been a bad day for VAR".

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

Look. You have won. VAR will stay and will never be scrapped.

So I am the old man shouting at clouds.

What you fail to recognise is that those mistakes are part of the emotional tapestry of the game for over a century. Those dubious decisions fueled us and we could properly celebrate in the instance. And VAR is not reducing the dubious calls as you describe.

The game has gone. It has become sterile and scientific instead of art. You are welcome to your new world but don't try and convince us it is better. It is not. And if you choose to piss on my chips, expect a reaction.

I was extremely anti VAR but I’m probably now in the category of really hating it but not having an alternative.

Thought this was a good article in the guardian,

He shoots, he scores – or does he? How VAR changed football for ever

Virtual assistance for referees has drawn complaints from managers, players and fans. What has it done to the beautiful game?

www.google.co.uk

 

[BlueHammer85]

And VAR is not reducing the dubious calls as you describe.

In 2018/19, before VAR was introduced, the percentage of correct key match decisions was 82 per cent. With the help of VAR in 2019/20, it rose to 94 per cent.

Over the course of 2019/20, over 2,400 incidents were checked and 109 decisions were overturned by the VAR, an average of an overturned decision every 3.5 matches.

can't find similar results for last season.

anyway, these stats don't make me an advocate for VAR, they are just the facts.

No one can argue you're personal emotional feeling towards it - me, i have some hope it will always improve but it will be a long process and i don't think we will ever rid of controversial decsions, but key black & white decisions, that is what refs with the help of VAR can get right and must do.

 

[Nellies left peg]

In 2018/19, before VAR was introduced, the percentage of correct key match decisions was 82 per cent. With the help of VAR in 2019/20, it rose to 94 per cent.

Over the course of 2019/20, over 2,400 incidents were checked and 109 decisions were overturned by the VAR, an average of an overturned decision every 3.5 matches.

can't find similar results for last season.

anyway, these stats don't make me an advocate for VAR, they are just the facts.

No one can argue you're personal emotional feeling towards it - me, i have some hope it will always improve but it will be a long process and i don't think we will ever rid of controversial decsions, but key black & white decisions, that is what refs with the help of VAR can get right and must do.

Its not the decisions overturned that is worrying me. It's the ones not even looked at for certain teams. Did Salahs dive go to VAR yesterday because it didn't appear to. Although the West Ham sending off was a shocker that was looked at and fucked up

 

[BlueHammer85]

Its not the decisions overturned that is worrying me. It's the ones not even looked at for certain teams. Did Salahs dive go to VAR yesterday because it didn't appear to. Although the West Ham sending off was a shocker that was looked at and fucked up

with or without VAR the standard of refereeing is a big worry - if they can't get it right watching it a million times on a monitor then what hope have we got