VAR - 2020/21

[M12Blue]

Can we get rid of this once and for all. All the screen does is say 'VAR check ongoing' or 'No penalty'. It does not show the incident. It does not assist the Rags or Dips by not having one.
The only reason the Rags havent got one is that they would have to take seats out therefore cutting revenue. As for the scousers, they havent got one because they havent been able to nick one yet.

You’re right but as everyone is saying VAR only transparent if fans see what’s going on and said. Ultimately I think that will happen, so rags and dippers should be forced to get set. And yes I realize the spouse one may be 200 Samsung 44inch screens taped together. Batteries for the remotes might be a problem some games

 

[RobinHood]

But go back to the free kick/penalty award. How was that a clear and obvious error. They cannot interpret the law differently every time but they do. Clear and obvious means he sent the wrong player off, he missed the defender diving and tipping the shot round the post with his hand. It does not mean two inches from the 18 yard box line. For offside, clear and obvious should mean the same, not lines drawn on a screen and a debate about when a player kicked it towards the forward.
The whole thing is a farce.

This, all day long. It's this ruling that ruins the game. And dare I say it, VAR itself.

 

[Roachy]

No. His claim is valid. It is a valid point. Him making the claim is hypocracy.

Yes he does suffer from hypocrisy, as does large swathes of their fans. My point wasn't in relation to his claim though. It was more in agreement with your last sentence relating to the team being benefactors of numerous similar decisions to the one he was complaining about.

 

[CatMan]

VAR at the Leicester game yesterday actually made me remember just how shit that type of experience is for the match attending fan. I have always had a radio earpiece when attending a game so may have had some idea of WTF was going on with the Penalty, No Penalty, Offside, Not Offside, it's a Goal interlude but 99.9% wouldn't have a clue. I'll never forget that Spurs CL game when Sterling scored. I was next to the Spurs fans in SS3 and hundreds had trudged out and were downstairs before that goal was ruled out. Personally I don't think there's a match going fan that wouldn't now accept a return to Referee's/Linesman's call and just accept some you lose and some you win, but most importantly ALL you can celebrate or curse immediately. In the search of perfection, they have forever destroyed the enduring enjoyment of attending live sport.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

I think I’m in the minority that actually likes VAR. People have forgotten how many bad decisions were made by our poor officials. There’s plenty of improvements I would make to VAR though. Allowing everyone to hear what the officials are saying, just like in rugby. They’ve got it nailed the rugby officials. It’s much more professional than staring at a football referee looking at a monitor with no clue what is going on.

 

[Cornish_Blue]

VAR needs to operated and completely transparent, EXACTLY the same as Rugby. No hiding/deciding what they fancy giving. Show the crowd WHAT you’re looking at and how you e come to that decision.
it’s only known as Vary Any Result because it’s being manipulated to how they see fit.

 

[NorthamptonBlue]

I think I’m in the minority that actually likes VAR. People have forgotten how many bad decisions were made by our poor officials. There’s plenty of improvements I would make to VAR though. Allowing everyone to hear what the officials are saying, just like in rugby. They’ve got it nailed the rugby officials. It’s much more professional than staring at a football referee looking at a monitor with no clue what is going on.

I support my local Premiership rugby team. The VAR decisions are a part of the spectator experience. The ref doesn’t go to a small screen but watches on the big screen along with the fans. It works well on the whole.

 

[leeneel]

Make all communications between ref, Linesmen and VAR public as they do in Rugby, Cricket etc or it will never be accepted or seen as fair and impartial.

The refusal to go down this simple route as other sports have simply leads me to believe with good reason that they have everything to hide im afraid.

 

[Bluearmy]

Rags would have had a Pen then if not for VAR!!

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

Ugh. It’s just horribly implemented. It should be easy in a situation like the rags peno. Start with is he onside and take it from there

 

[leeneel]

Rags would have had a Pen then if not for VAR!!

Yeah lets forget VAR refusing to even look at the fact he was offside.

VAR or lack of it allowed the ref to possibly give them a penalty there!

 

[dronefromsector7G]

VAR is great it’s the cheating cunts manipulating it that’s the problem

 

[WRicko]

Ugh. It’s just horribly implemented. It should be easy in a situation like the rags peno. Start with is he onside and take it from there

Absolutely

I would say that he looked offside but if not it’s a Pen yes it’s soft and yes he dived but we have seen them given and in any case Maguire is dragged back

 

[leeneel]

VAR is great it’s the cheating cunts manipulating it that’s the problem

Is the correct answer.

 

[Bluearmy]

Yeah lets forget VAR refusing to even look at the fact he was offside.

VAR or lack of it allowed the ref to possibly give them a penalty there!

What?? The ref awarded them a pen in actual play. No VAR in place, they get a penalty.

VAR has its faults and yes it was offside so I have no idea why they bothered checking the dive, but without it United likely take the lead then!

 

[leeneel]

What?? The ref awarded them a pen in actual play. No VAR they get a penalty.

Why didnt VAR see that Maguire was offside so no need to even look at the tackle again?

 

[jay_mcfc]

It's not VAR that's the issue.

The game needs a reboot when it comes to penalties. We need to get away from 'there was contact' and shift towards 'was it a foul'. A foul should require significant force. The game would be much better if penalties like ours last night and Salah's last week weren't penalties. The whole 'contact' issue just validates and encourages dives. Stick the word force in there and it solves a lot of the 'modern' penalty issues as described by Mourinho last night. Tribalism doesn't help either.

 

[Bluearmy]

Why didnt VAR see that Maguire was offside so no need to even look at the tackle again?

Id say VAR did see it. Was obvious to everyone bar The corrupt officials who you want leaving to referee the game without VAR keeping them in check....

Anyway without VAR today, the Rags get a corrupt penalty and likely win the game. Thankfully due to VAR that didnt happen!!

 

[leeneel]

Id say VAR did see it. Was obvious to everyone bar The corrupt officials who you want leaving to referee the game without VAR keeping them in check....

Anyway without VAR today, the Rags get a corrupt penalty and likely win the game. Thankfully due to VAR that didnt happen!!

Sorry but VAR or the officials sat doing that job failed to do it correctly so no, it didn't do its job yet again but rather gave the ref every opportunity to stick to his decision and give the rags a penalty.

Thankfully he didn't but he could have done and yet again a result would have been fixed because of its inaccurate use.

I've no issue with VAR so long as its used consistently and we can hear the conversations.

 

[M12Blue]

Sorry but VAR or the officials sat doing that job failed to do it correctly so no, it didn't do its job yet again but rather gave the ref every opportunity to stick to his decision and give the rags a penalty.

Thankfully he didn't but he could have done and yet again a result would have been fixed because of its inaccurate use.

I've no issue with VAR so long as its used consistently and we can hear the conversations.

Completely agree, Mike Riley really needs to explain this because it looks corrupt as f#ck