Var debate 2019/20

[PistonBlue]

It’s because Llorente’s arm was against his body whereas last night the arm was completely outstretched.

It's bollocks mate.
So you can score with your hand as long as it's in the confines of your own silhouette effectively. The handball rule is now just a lottery.
The game is fucked

 

[HelloCity]

It's bollocks mate.
So you can score with your hand as long as it's in the confines of your own silhouette effectively. The handball rule is now just a lottery.
The game is fucked

Truth is, handball has been like this for 2-3 decades.

Look at every handball decision that gets given and the ones that don’t.

It’s always been such a random decision.

 

[PistonBlue]

Truth is, handball has been like this for 2-3 decades.

Look at every handball decision that gets given and the ones that don’t.

It’s always been such a random decision.

And that's exactly what VAR was supposed to change

 

[Gundogan's Moustache]

If that was outside the box and it wasn’t given no one would of battered an eyelid

 

[HelloCity]

And that's exactly what VAR was supposed to change

I don’t think it’s possible. It’s just so subjective.

Maybe it should only be given if it’s 100% clear a player has tried to actually block the ball or something.

Nobody would dispute the Suarez one at the WC for example.

 

[purplenose]

That last night was a penalty. If you are in the area waving your arms about then its asking for it.

 

[dadnlad]

If that was outside the box and it wasn’t given no one would of battered an eyelid

i think he'd of give it with or without VAR, but maybe not at other end of pitch

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

Thought I’d copy the new rule in full out:

Handling the ball

It is an offence if a player:
• deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/arm towards the ball
• gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then:
• scores in the opponents’ goal
• creates a goal-scoring opportunity
• scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper

It is usually an offence if a player:
• touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
• the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
• the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)

The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.

Except for the above offences, it is not usually an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm:
• directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot)
• directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close
• if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturally bigger
• when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground to support the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body

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So, last nights decision a correct implementation of the new law. Llorente’s against us would also have been disallowed

 

[deano ou812]

The handball rule was changed after Otamendi’s one against schalke,any handball now deliberate or not in the box is deemed a pen ..

 

[1961_vintage]

VAR will be nothing more than an additional tool used to ensure that whatever pre-determined outcome is required can be justified.