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Var debate 2019/20
- Thread starter Chi-town blues
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PistonBlue
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This was the first thing that came to my mind yesterday when I saw the replay. Never liked the idea of VAR and now that it’s been introduced it’s proving to be more trouble than it’s worth.
The idea of VAR is in itself only a good thing in theory. But it's already plain to see that decisions are being made to suit whatever narrative UEFA want it to suit. The Llorente handball and last nights handball illustrate that.
But Sissoko was not in the line of sight of the goal and the ball strikes his chest first. It's not an Otamendi, or PSG call.yes it does, and it came into play yesterday
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47429316
like i said i don't like it, but its why the pen was given
They got it wrong.
HelloCity
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That handball would have been a pen 10 years ago by many refs never mind in a VAR era.
Not that VAR mattered as the ref gave it instantly himself anyway.
Seen miles and miles worse handball decisions given against City over the years. Sterling vs Spurs, Dunne at Millwall, one away at Chelsea in 2011. Non of them were VAR related either.
Not that VAR mattered as the ref gave it instantly himself anyway.
Seen miles and miles worse handball decisions given against City over the years. Sterling vs Spurs, Dunne at Millwall, one away at Chelsea in 2011. Non of them were VAR related either.
HelloCity
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The idea of VAR is in itself only a good thing in theory. But it's already plain to see that decisions are being made to suit whatever narrative UEFA want it to suit. The Llorente handball and last nights handball illustrate that.
What does VAR have to do with it? The ref gave it instantly and lesser handball decisions were given all the time in a pre-VAR world.
Maybe there needs to be a separate thread for handball decisions...
yes it does, and it came into play yesterday
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47429316
like i said i don't like it, but its why the pen was given
That is on about next season and the full list was publicised yesterday, it look like interpretation rather than a change in the law to me. However if it hit the player then his hand/arm.
But a handball will not be a free-kick if...
- the ball is knocked on to a hand by the player in question or a nearby player
So chest to hand is not handball
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/4838225
Citizen in Pakistan
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Shouldn't have been a penalty. Poch showed why he is as much a bottler as Spurs though. Kane straight in despite not being 100% fit. Embarrassing. Left out the player who won them the semi... awful management. Should have dropped Alli for Kane if anyone. Big game bottle job.
Poor guy got done with pressure build up my media, and end up selecting kane, he killed what ever chance they had
HelloCity
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That is on about next season and the full list was publicised yesterday, it look like interpretation rather than a change in the law to me. However if it hit the player then his hand/arm.
But a handball will not be a free-kick if...
- the ball is knocked on to a hand by the player in question or a nearby player
So chest to hand is not handball
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/4838225
Yeah, that’s always been the way but they often always got given anyway - even before VAR.
Sterling vs Spurs - Back then elbow.
Richards vs Liverpool - Leg then arm.
Handball has always been an iffy rule and always been so inconsistent in how it’s applied.
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I guess VAR is a case of careful what you wish for you might get it . Think we all wanted VAR to clear up the injustice type of decisions, but I don't think we realized that the way it's going to be used is going to take the emotion and excitement out of the game . The game !ast night was spoiled by that penalty decision so early, dippers could see the prize early and didn't care how they got to it ,spuds never got into their stride after it so the game never developed into a spectacle. So for the sake of being "correct" we had that as the show piece final a game that did nothing to advance the English game abroad but that's ok cos everything was deemed correct .
I didn't want it because it takes the emotion and excitement and opinion out of the game, that's what I thought before var and will think now , every goal n the champions league is muted because we don't know what's coming next, and it will be the same in the premier league, football isn't accountancy where everything has to be correct, football can be a massive kick in the bollox at times, but that's football, but it seems todays generation feels like everything must be correct or it will hurt peoples feelings
before VAR when a goal is scored you celebrate quick look to the lino jobs a goodun,now you have to wait 3 minutes. they will introduce music next and as someone said xfactor type voting,
as for that handball,that hasn't been handball in 100 years of football,but for some strange reason the powers that be have decided that it is, wingers firing the ball at defenders when there's nobody in the box, there will be no more cry of miss the first man ,now it will be hit the first man,they are changing football for the worse.
PistonBlue
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It went to VAR did it not? That'll be what VAR has got to do with it then.What does VAR have to do with it? The ref gave it instantly and lesser handball decisions were given all the time in a pre-VAR world.
Maybe there needs to be a separate thread for handball decisions...