Var debate 2019/20

I'm With Stupid said:
I think it's because they know that parts of the game rely, and always have done, on a flexible interpretation of the rules. But VAR removes any flexibility from the rules, it's black or white. If you actually enforce the rule that the keeper has to keep both feet on his line (and they tried to do it about 10 years ago), it basically makes it almost impossible for the keeper to save it. So you give them a bit of flexibility to step a bit forward in the process of diving, but pull them up if they take the piss. VAR ruins your ability to do that because as soon as people look at the replay, it's clear the keeper is off his line, and ask why it wasn't pulled up. So instead they just say that it's not going to be used for that purpose.

But with handball, we've got the opposite problem of a fairly nuanced area being shoehorned into a binary interpretation. It seems to me that some 'confusion' around the handball rule has been manufactured in the past year or so to justify this rule change where intent has been removed from the handball rule. And the reason for that is that intent can't be judged by VAR, without the referee having to go over and rewatch the footage. So it's easier to just say that any handball in the lead up to a goal will disallow the goal, no matter how innocuous and accidental it is, and any handball potentially preventing a goal leads to a penalty. Basically, we've got a situation where instead of VAR being used to enforce the existing rules, the rules are being changed to fit in with VAR. I have absolutely no problem with VAR in principle, but like the offside call the other day, now they've got it, they're trying to create this situation where it's some all-knowing, infallible piece of technology instead of admitting that there can still be doubts. The handball rule should have remained the same with VAR only overturning clear and obvious mistakes like they supposedly do with penalties, and like they should do with offsides.
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Brilliant post. You hit the nail on the head. VAR cannot judge intent. But in can measure off side to thousands of an inch. It's all so wrong wrong wrong.
 
The handball isn’t obvious at all but if it’s hit his arm then no problem.

Not going to VAR for the Rodri penalty incident is baffling. Anyone who has any doubts surrounding any form of agenda/corruption against the club only has to look at the fans reaction, the players reaction and the commentary from Neville when Rodri is dragged down and explain how that’s not been checked. Even if they decide it’s not a penalty, there’s no harm in checking. To not even check after such a huge reaction from everyone involved in the game screams agenda/corruption. That’s not just a simple mistake, they specifically chose not to review a huge potential game changing incident, why?
 
It's clearly only in place to stop us running away with it again.

I said it before but when you can't celebrate a 93rd minute winner because of VAR what's the point?

Plus, the Tottenham lad pulled Laporte's arm which is what made it touch the ball, so. . . is there a penalty?

If that's a winner in the 93rd minute at Old Trafford do you think they are disallowing it for such a spurious reason? The answer is, sadly, obvious. . .
 
Being on the shit end of some points affecting VAR decisions this early in the season may ultimately work in our favour as we’ve got 36 games to recover and unless they want to make it blatantly obvious that they are screwing us they will need to back off.
 
ctid1894 said:
The handball isn’t obvious at all but if it’s hit his arm then no problem.

Not going to VAR for the Rodri penalty incident is baffling. Anyone who has any doubts surrounding any form of agenda/corruption against the club only has to look at the fans reaction, the players reaction and the commentary from Neville when Rodri is dragged down and explain how that’s not been checked. Even if they decide it’s not a penalty, there’s no harm in checking. To not even check after such a huge reaction from everyone involved in the game screams agenda/corruption. That’s not just a simple mistake, they specifically chose not to review a huge potential game changing incident, why?
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Totally agree. What’s the fucking point of it if they are not even checking that. Smells of bent to me that
 
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