Whereas every match is now overshadowed by a VAR abomination. Exaserbated by faceless, anonymous invigilators having time to look at incidents and stiil not applying real time logic or common sense. Far more sinister and open to corruption and/or personal bias.No drop in fan base
No drop in viewing figures
No drop in anything.
It’s usual social media outcry when there’s a change in a system, people won’t like it at first, will be a big hoo rah every now and then but in a couple years fans will adjust and it won’t be debated and moaned about.
Let’s not forget, before VAR , practically every match was overshadowed by referring performances and debated about endlessly.
.........., at the next stoppage the television match official asked the ref to look again, he had no problem doing so and reserved his decision.
The premier league and it's officials could learn a lot from the way rugby manage it's version of var.
Whereas every match is now overshafowed by a VAR abomination. Exaserbated by faceless, anonymous invigilators having time to look at incidents and stiil not applying real time logic or common sense. Far more sinister and open to corruption and/or personal bias.
No drop in fan base
No drop in viewing figures
No drop in anything.
It’s usual social media outcry when there’s a change in a system, people won’t like it at first, will be a big hoo rah every now and then but in a couple years fans will adjust and it won’t be debated and moaned about.
Let’s not forget, before VAR , practically every match was overshadowed by referring performances and debated about endlessly.
No drop in fan base: Not had chance to have an any affect yet
No drop in viewing figures: As per above
No drop in anything: How about integrity
This VAR is a farce the vast majority of match going fans think this is the case
Before VAR only those decisions that the ref got wrong were debated now endless debates about VAR and the way it’s being applied Calling out players for being mm offside or the ball glancing an arm is a fucking farce and to sit there and wait whilst some clown plays with his technology toy, which isn’t even accurate, is an absolute joke
Plus the fact that lpool and the rags don't have a big screen to show a replay and both clubs voted against VAR ...mmmmYep, exactly that. It worked on World Cup as they did check any potential situation. But then everybody moaned about VAR slowing the game down and we have this shit now where they don't have any responsibility and don't give a fuck. Even if they make mistake, they can always put it down to the VAR.
Nail on head. You could be on to something here.
I think it's a farce they way it is being used now. Before it's introduction I was in favour of VAR and now I'm thinking it should be sacked off.
You make some good points about how it can be improved....
If VAR is looking at clear and obvious on penalty decisions then you have to question decisions like today for lpool and the two we should have had......as you say whats the point if they wont overturn the refs decision on penalties ? what I think should happen is the ref is made to look at it on the screens provided in the tunnel otherwise whats the point of the screens being there?Most of us were.
The thing was, most fans/footballers/managers etc had a vision of the eradication of dogshit decisions. We all thought that a ref misses a pen, VAR overturns it. Ref gives a dodgy pen, VAR overturns it. Nobody told us that VAR was only there for backing a ref on every wrong decision they make. If we knew this beforehand, there wouldn’t have been an outcry for VAR in the first place.
How can we be in a situation, where a system has been implemented to assist referees, because they get things wrong and then nothing gets overturned? Are we now saying that referees have become infallible with the introduction of this technology?
In its current format, VAR is a complete waste of time. We keep hearing that refs don’t want to overturn subjective decisions.....so what is the fucking point, it’s the subjective decisions that they clearly get wrong on the field, that drives us all mad.
Either change it from its current format, preferably by removing refs from the process and making the VAR officials independent, or bin it and use it for offsides only. I can’t carry on watching turd decisions being given the thumbs up by VAR. I’d rather just go back to slagging off incompetent on-field refs.
If VAR is looking at clear and obvious on penalty decisions then you have to question decisions like today for lpool and the two we should have had......as you say whats the point if they wont overturn the refs decision on penalties ? what I think should happen is the ref is made to look at it on the screens provided in the tunnel otherwise whats the point of the screens being there?
The only time Ive seen VAR overturn an officials decision is rags and arselona and today for palaces goal..if they can do that why not on penalty decisions ?I'd like to see Monday Night Football call this faux VAR out and compare it to other coutries use of it. Bring the stats and show how many times VAR has overruled a refs original decision or he himself has changed his mind vs the clear & obvious BS the FA/EPL is serving up. We all know Sky won't have the balls to dig them out especially with the dippers out in front.
It's working EXACTLY how it's supposed to work.It's obviously not worki g how it should
They've just set the bar ridiculously high. I honestly can't think of a single refereeing decision that's been overturned by VAR when it comes to penalties. In that sense, the decision to not overturn the Mane decision was consistent with all of the other decisions this year. But it'll be interesting at the end of the year to see how many times a VAR check goes for or against each team, because that will give you a good indication in the bias of referees. To be fair, Liverpool have had one go against them this year too, when they could have had a penalty at Newcastle but the referee didn't give it and neither did VAR. Having said that, it's easier when a dodgy decision goes against you earlier in a game, rather than in the last kick of the game.If VAR is looking at clear and obvious on penalty decisions then you have to question decisions like today for lpool and the two we should have had......as you say whats the point if they wont overturn the refs decision on penalties ? what I think should happen is the ref is made to look at it on the screens provided in the tunnel otherwise whats the point of the screens being there?